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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's gene Steinberg with gene and

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Chris on the power cast we have some

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interesting things to discuss before we

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bring out our special guest of the week

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and that is a long thread that has been

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posted in the forums at forum dr. power

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cast um

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entitled dark matter is dead long live

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DMR that is interesting here because we

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talked about this earlier you know

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they're saying sometimes you can't come

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back again and what that means is say

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for example someone who's in show

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business and does a radio show or a TV

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show and they quit the business and they

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come back a few years later and

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depending on the situation sometimes

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that works I think it worked with the

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late Raymond Burr when he brought back

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Perry Mason do you remember that you

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know he faint Lee until he could barely

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walk basically he had a hold up a cane

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to keep him aloft but he kept doing that

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show until struggle before he died and

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then we have a guy who was one of the

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pioneers in paranormal radio by the name

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of art bell and some years back he quit

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coast to coast

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retired for I think the third or fourth

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time I think and George Noory replaced

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him so very recently art says he's going

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to come back on radio and he's going to

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have something called art bells Dark

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Matter on Sirius XM satellite radio now

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as most of our listeners know there is a

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show called dark matters hosted by our

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good friend Don Ecker so obviously art

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Bell didn't talk to Don Ecker and said

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hey can I use this name can I send you a

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check he just did and of course you know

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in show business you know probably not

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much you can do about I mean unless

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imitation is the sincerest form of

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flattery well you know on last week said

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pisode when we had brian sable he

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mentioned the fact that he was not

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involved in this new movie called dark

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skies which is in no way based on the TV

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show he was co-producer of back in the

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90s called dark skies yes they both

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dealt with UFOs and paranormal subjects

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but there was no resemblance

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man the studio didn't care so you

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basically have two different products by

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the same name and they're totally

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different and I guess some people

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potential people who wanted to see the

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movie may have thought they were getting

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a screen version of the TV show you know

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like with x-files but they were getting

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something totally owned though

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well anyway with art Bell's Dark Matter

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he did the show for a few weeks brought

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back all those characters that we won't

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mention that made his show famous it was

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like the 1990s all over again and then

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one day on his Facebook page he says

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sometimes when you are all in you win

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sometimes lose by mutual agreement Dark

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Matter will no longer air as of tonight

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and that was posted just a few days ago

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and then his Facebook page disappeared

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so Dark Matter is no more

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well that's it's we kind of saw this

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coming we've been talking about this off

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and on since the show started since his

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new comeback attempt I should say and

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you know one of the things that

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obviously kind of comes through with

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this is you can't sit out on the

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sidelines and ignore the subject matter

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for the most part and ten twelve years

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later expect to come back in and pick up

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where you left off you know the world is

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a different place people are much more

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savvy and up to speed and I think in

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order to attract an audience who you're

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expecting to pay a subscription to

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listen to your show you better come up

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with you know some new circus tricks or

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parlor Acts or something to to entice

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people to have them re-- tune back in to

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that famous radio voice and that voice

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isn't enough to carry a show like that

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it's a quality of the guests that's why

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the para cast is so important and why

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we're doing so well and this is not just

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a statement of ego it's obvious that

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when art Belle tried to repeat his

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success of the 90s doing everything the

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same way with the exact same guests now

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those guests for nostalgia sake say hey

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there's some of the people who were

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famous on the show years back let's see

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what they're doing today let's try to

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make it relevant for today when he was

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that point

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satellite radio was just barely in the

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infant stage and satellite radio is a

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very different thing yes it's primarily

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radio that you can listen to anywhere in

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the country where you have access to the

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satellite signal but you can't assume

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it's the same thing you don't have the

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limits of commercial radio so maybe you

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can be a little bit more outrageous this

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is what makes Howard Stern very famous

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of course he also made 500 million

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dollars from his Sirius XM deal he

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should send us a check but the point

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being here is that you just can't live

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on nostalgia I guess sometimes you can

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with you know networks as a network on

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Sirius XM where they have the old radio

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shows like the shadow and the Lone

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Ranger and stuff like that and if you

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want to hear old stuff you can listen to

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it but the paranormal field has changed

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and if you don't change with it you're

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doomed to failure but I don't think

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that's the only reason the show is no

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longer there supposedly there was some

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kind of debate over whether he could

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offer free versions of the show mmm I

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didn't hear that

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that's part of what I was reading that

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there was some issue there about whether

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he could offer a free online version of

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the show in addition to what you had to

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pay to get on Sirius XM but you know if

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that's the case if there's a dispute

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over this wouldn't you resolve it before

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you put the show on the air I don't know

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what do I know about this well the king

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is dead long live the king and if he can

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come up with some alternative way to

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reimburse himself back into the field

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and present quality cutting-edge gas

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I wish him all the luck and success in

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the world but you just you know you

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can't expect the old mule to get up and

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pull the cart 1012 years later it's just

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you know you know often times people

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accuse us of being old fogies and being

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a museum and and that's because we

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constantly are hearing the name ed Lou

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Pelton and Donald Keogh and these these

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dusty monsters from the past but you

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have to really understand where this

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field how aware it comes from how it

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developed in order to fully understand

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where it is right now so to anyone out

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there that rolls their eyes anytime Jean

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mentions Keo go back and read reread

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your Keo and understand why we tout

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certain pivotal figures in the history

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of this of this field and why their

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their work is so important and how their

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work has has just totally impacted many

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people's thinking to this day decades

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later and we're all out here attempting

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to break through and really come up with

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some solid answers some better data some

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better pattern analysis better ways of

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solving these mysteries and better

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approaches and it all hinges on the past

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you you know if you don't who was it

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that said Jean if you don't learn the

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lessons of the past you you're doomed to

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repeat them I think that's that's a

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really important adage and that's one of

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the issues that we run into in the UFO

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field where people today are constantly

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doing the same exact thing they did back

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in the 1950s making the same mistakes

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that have taken us nowhere it's as if

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all that stuff never happened it's as if

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there was no Donald Kehoe there was no J

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Allen Hynek there was no John keel but

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if you don't look at their research and

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look at their results

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you're not going to improve upon it

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you're not going to know what their

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mistakes were and we found their

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mistakes and for my new book some of

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those guys made stalking the herd by the

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way as his book which is coming shortly

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but it is a big book that's taken awhile

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oh boy this week I've uncovered some

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bombshells we got to talk about that

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more in future episodes today though

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we're going to explore on the edge of

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reality and our guest is the crop circle

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pioneer himself : Andrews he wrote it

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with his wife Cynthia Andrews and before

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we even start I'm going to ask him about

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a dedication he did at the beginning of

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the book which you know about Chris it's

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to a rock legend of the 1960's who a

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close friend of his right yeah reg

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Presley writes Presley of the Troggs and

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that in a moment but we have Cohen

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Andrews joining us next

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is he a Wild Thing what we're going to

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talk about the wild and wooly world of

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crop circles and more with gene and

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we live in a complicated society

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stressful issues are always popping up

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have you ever been treated unfairly by

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for a repair have you ever signed a

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I've tried different protein powders

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over the years and they've all tasted

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pretty bad I tried one roadway and found

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it to be delicious after 10 weeks on one

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world way my wife commented you have

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more muscles and you're leaner than when

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you were 20 years old my body has

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normally I'll ride 2 days on and take 2

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days off after being on one world way I

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wrote 10 days in a row and over 100

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degree heat and then I take another two

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servings of one world away and then work

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out at the gym for another hour and a

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half I just couldn't believe these

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results my normal muscle tightness and

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soreness after working out are virtually

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gone don't take my word for it one will

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way comes in single servings just give

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it a try for a health and taste

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sensation you'll love call eight eight

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Ericka's calm that's news at the para

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called

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on the edge of reality it sounds like my

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life with Jia and Chris and the power

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cast we wanted to have this guy on the

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show for a long time and we want to

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welcome them to the power cast : Andrews

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welcome aboard

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thank you very much Jane and thanks for

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having me on there now Chris was telling

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me he spent all night finishing your

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book he was up til 3 o'clock the morning

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of this recording session Wow quite I

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come put it down I mean I wanted to get

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it finished before a good course

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obviously before you came on the show I

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do pride myself in being up to speed on

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our guest work of course your work I've

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been following for many many years your

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true pioneer and boy I'll tell you and

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Cynthia have have a really really good I

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think important book here and obviously

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we're gonna get in and talk about that

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in the show

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welcome back Morris thank you very much

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now we mentioned this before but I

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wanted to talk about something

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interesting maybe a trivia sidelight the

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fact that you have a dedication on the

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edge of reality

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to a gentleman who was a famous rock

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star in the 1960s can you tell us about

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it yes absolutely well my very best

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friend and most age with him when I was

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living back in England they lived in the

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same time as myself reg Presley of the

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Troggs you know the well-known songs of

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love is all around and wild thing that

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those were numbers that most people

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remember him by

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was still very active actually until

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less you know up until 2 less than two

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years ago when he had his first stroke

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which led on to other things and

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regrettably we lost reg this time pretty

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well this time last year it is actually

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still a great loss to me and very nice

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guy close to all of this all of the

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subjects we're going to be talking about

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today had strong opinions on things with

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politics and so on so yeah my best man

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that don't wedding he flew over with his

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wife brand to the

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wedding here in Connecticut and Iowan a

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lot a very generous man there was never

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a meal that we would go out to a

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restaurant that he didn't pay for at his

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insistence

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yeah nice guy we dedicated the book to

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reg very actually I thought you know he

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left us with the love is all around the

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very thing that we're still trying to

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kind of find understand and apply to our

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world so where we felt that was very

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appropriate I noticed also he wrote that

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particular song now the first song the

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Troggs became famous for was wild thing

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you know wild thing you make that right

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right and that was written by chip

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Taylor who's a New York born country

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songwriter who was born with the name

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James Wesley boy that's factoid he is

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John voice younger brother and he wrote

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that he wrote Criss Angel of the morning

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and a number of other songs but the

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trivia and the three degrees of

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separation we have here is that wrench

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Presley was your pal his big hit record

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his first big hit record with his band

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was Wild Thing written by chip Taylor

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who with a guy named Joe Renda or crazy

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Joe was the owner of a recording studio

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in New York called North Lake Sound

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where my wife did some recording

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sessions in the 1980s so there's our

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three degrees of separation oh my yeah

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it's amazing

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isn't that amazing somehow you see

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there's three degrees of separation is

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supposed to work so that we can kind of

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get to know everything there is to be

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known about our world and perhaps move

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on to a better place in it and yet we're

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still practice cyber mode that in this

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three degrees somewhere something isn't

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quite working out we're not getting to

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meet the guys that have got numbers on

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their doors and no names on their lapels

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that are leading us astray so we're

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still looking for that full three

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degrees I think but that's yeah that's

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really quite something quite

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coincidental to see what for sure and of

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course we know chip Taylor is Angelina

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Jolie uncle all right we know that all

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right that's right that's I guess the

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best part of and he's still going strong

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by the way I think he released an album

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very recently Annie

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yeah we all you know had some way that

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got us involved in the UFO and

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paranormal field I read a book about the

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subject when I was 11

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Chris had a UFO sighting when he was

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very young and you had some kind of

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incident incident near your school as a

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child could you tell us more I think

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there were really two things that

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happened the mum and dad when I was a

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early teen maybe 11 12 13 I always had

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age yes well you know that that was when

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my mum and dad with my younger brother

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had a UFO experience I wasn't in the

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vehicle at that time they had gone out

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for a drive around Stonehenge with a

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very close by and we would use the

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stones that Stonehenge the fallen ones

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as our table for a picnic how things

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have changed now of course but you know

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guarded by uniformed people but that was

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a regular kind of Sunday afternoon they

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had a a very close encounter with a disc

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and they came back in full of this thing

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that they had seen this object created

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quite an impression upon me because I

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had never seen my mum and dad in such a

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lated kind of excitement you know

461
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something obviously had happened and if

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you believe nobody else she's certainly

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reckoned to believe your mum and dad you

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know my dad was a military at that time

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you know ex-military officer and so that

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kind of had an impression upon me but

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there was already something planted and

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it's kind of a longer story I'll try to

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keep it very concise but when I was 5

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years old on two occasions I had what I

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always record I'm always mentioned in

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conversation within the family as two

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very strange dreams that I really could

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not shake off even though it was only

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five years old that was 1951

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I remembered these kind of so-called

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trains I was asleep in the house in that

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same house where they were when they had

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their experience and there's kind of a

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tugging in my solar plexus

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and I was aware of it it was a very

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strange feeling it was like something

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trying to pull itself out of me it felt

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like suddenly I was floating and looking

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down at my sister and

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my younger brother and moving towards

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the back of the house to the water was

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overlooking a field that's where the

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actual physical memory of these colorful

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returns terminated on two occasions and

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then came along dr. Jim harder at

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university Berkeley who had requests to

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Barney and Betty Hill and Travis Walton

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he became familiar with my work and he

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said that he and professor Allen Hynek

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you on Blue Book and recognized certain

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patterning that interested them in

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second marriages people who had

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00:21:22,850 --> 00:21:20,010
experiences came together and when went

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on to do other things in a related kind

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of fashion related to this subject would

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I be regret I refused it actually

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several times he arrived in my home in

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Connecticut we were both on the same

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platform at a UFO conference and there

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Yale University

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well one story short he regrets me in a

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matter of about 45 minutes which felt

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like about 8:00 to me my wife was there

510
00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:45,540
Cynthia he was the co-author of this

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00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:48,480
latest book and seeder who Jim harbors

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00:21:52,790 --> 00:21:50,970
wife was also there so therefore of us I

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was regressed I didn't think this was

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going to be possible because I was

515
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actually kind of against that although

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00:22:01,310 --> 00:21:57,600
he made me feel more comfortable during

517
00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:01,320
the regression I was tapped into as the

518
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simplest way of putting it to this dream

519
00:22:09,170 --> 00:22:06,480
event it became something very different

520
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I went through the whole recore as it

521
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was in my physical memory and then there

522
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:14,070
was something new and that was that

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00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:17,280
where it terminated it continued I went

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into a very bright white light at the

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back of the house it was in the field at

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the back of the house and I saw there I

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00:22:31,730 --> 00:22:29,130
was floating through passed to us

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uniformed military people that's what

529
00:22:36,620 --> 00:22:34,410
they look like okay we got a flow to

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this for a minute then we'll get back to

531
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his experiences and remembrances Cohen

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Andrews joins Jean and Chris you're in

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[Music]

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vision calm hi this is Don Ecker and you

634
00:27:08,599 --> 00:27:06,299
are tuned into the para cast let me tell

635
00:27:09,139 --> 00:27:08,609
you what you're going to hear stuff here

636
00:27:12,589 --> 00:27:09,149
that you

637
00:27:16,339 --> 00:27:12,599
probably won't hear anywhere else hear

638
00:27:19,099 --> 00:27:16,349
that George snoring with Gina and Chris

639
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:19,109
in the para cast : Andrews co-author

640
00:27:24,859 --> 00:27:21,809
with Cynthia Andrews of on the edge of

641
00:27:27,139 --> 00:27:24,869
reality recalling a time that you were

642
00:27:30,889 --> 00:27:27,149
hypnotically regressed and you

643
00:27:32,089 --> 00:27:30,899
remembered floating yes let's begin to a

644
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:32,099
very bright

645
00:27:36,379 --> 00:27:33,809
shrill bright like a welder's torch

646
00:27:39,259 --> 00:27:36,389
bright light at the back of my house I

647
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:39,269
saw two military people there in

648
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uniforms they look like US military

649
00:27:46,879 --> 00:27:43,859
uniforms very serious faces I went past

650
00:27:48,529 --> 00:27:46,889
them ahead level between them it felt

651
00:27:51,919 --> 00:27:48,539
like he was sucked into a bubble

652
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:51,929
I was now inside polite and the lighting

653
00:27:58,159 --> 00:27:55,049
level was dramatically reduced it became

654
00:28:00,289 --> 00:27:58,169
yellow as opposed to white and you know

655
00:28:02,060 --> 00:28:00,299
I kind of was lowered down I knew

656
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:02,070
instinctively this was nothing I was

657
00:28:06,669 --> 00:28:03,690
controlling oh but there's nothing I was

658
00:28:09,979 --> 00:28:06,679
doing other than I was lowered down I

659
00:28:11,629 --> 00:28:09,989
onto a plinth a single aluminum looking

660
00:28:15,139 --> 00:28:11,639
plinth no rivets or anything like that

661
00:28:19,369 --> 00:28:15,149
and I was facing my feet and immediately

662
00:28:21,979 --> 00:28:19,379
I saw an entity with almond shaped eyes

663
00:28:26,299 --> 00:28:21,989
they were not overly large but they were

664
00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:26,309
larger than our eyes it communicated to

665
00:28:31,579 --> 00:28:28,169
me I've heard this many times since of

666
00:28:35,629 --> 00:28:31,589
course but for me it was just a dream at

667
00:28:38,209 --> 00:28:35,639
the time it was same to me in my head we

668
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:38,219
are very sorry to be doing this but this

669
00:28:44,299 --> 00:28:40,769
is for a future time as if it doesn't

670
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:44,309
sound crazy enough it gave me a very

671
00:28:49,969 --> 00:28:47,129
precise information about the

672
00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:49,979
environment it gave me species that and

673
00:28:56,690 --> 00:28:52,710
where to find these species of plants

674
00:28:59,119 --> 00:28:56,700
Oak Tree and Bluebell and Primrose and

675
00:29:01,820 --> 00:28:59,129
the interaction between these plants in

676
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:01,830
the biological sense would be unable our

677
00:29:09,999 --> 00:29:07,279
current a biologist to understand the

678
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:10,009
environmental global environmental

679
00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:13,440
situation you know even went on you know

680
00:29:19,549 --> 00:29:16,169
to relate to me that Cynthia's father

681
00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:19,559
would leave us early and would be a kind

682
00:29:25,270 --> 00:29:21,470
of an interfacing

683
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:25,280
system to future events this happened

684
00:29:30,460 --> 00:29:27,200
Cynthia's father was a professor of

685
00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:30,470
medicine at Yale he passed away early

686
00:29:35,230 --> 00:29:32,809
we've had all kind of events happen

687
00:29:38,289 --> 00:29:35,240
since which may be a didn't need not be

688
00:29:40,060 --> 00:29:38,299
part of the program but that in in a

689
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:40,070
nutshell you know there are things that

690
00:29:45,610 --> 00:29:42,710
I record and things that happen that

691
00:29:47,649 --> 00:29:45,620
were very similar to as described by

692
00:29:49,539 --> 00:29:47,659
Barney and Betty Hill and also Travis

693
00:29:52,270 --> 00:29:49,549
both of whom I've obviously spent a

694
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:52,280
considerable math time we flew to

695
00:29:56,260 --> 00:29:54,320
England and check this information out

696
00:29:58,690 --> 00:29:56,270
you know I'm an engineer that you know

697
00:30:00,970 --> 00:29:58,700
my life has been spent resolving

698
00:30:02,890 --> 00:30:00,980
problems engineers can only deal with

699
00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:02,900
black and white yes and knows you know

700
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:05,120
you can't resolve problems in the

701
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electric or in electronic world by

702
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:08,900
ghosts and poltergeists you know these

703
00:30:13,659 --> 00:30:10,970
are things that are physical so I'm

704
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:13,669
driven all the time to have a very open

705
00:30:19,210 --> 00:30:16,370
mind but to resolve things using

706
00:30:22,149 --> 00:30:19,220
scientific protocols and so we flew to

707
00:30:24,940 --> 00:30:22,159
England and looked around the area that

708
00:30:27,490 --> 00:30:24,950
was now implanted in my new memory and

709
00:30:29,380 --> 00:30:27,500
they were there and not only were they

710
00:30:31,419 --> 00:30:29,390
there but where the bright light was at

711
00:30:35,049 --> 00:30:31,429
the back of my house what does that now

712
00:30:38,380 --> 00:30:35,059
45 50 years ago is still growing a

713
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:38,390
perfect 35 foot diameter ring with a

714
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:41,330
graph in that field is no much darker

715
00:30:46,180 --> 00:30:44,000
much more healthy and is growing in a

716
00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:46,190
perfect room does let me ask you very

717
00:30:50,830 --> 00:30:48,260
quickly here this is something that you

718
00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:50,840
so Leary called through a hypnotic

719
00:30:55,330 --> 00:30:52,880
trance you have no conscious memory of

720
00:30:57,070 --> 00:30:55,340
this part one of it is conscious memory

721
00:30:59,770 --> 00:30:57,080
the part that I always called a dream

722
00:31:02,409 --> 00:30:59,780
where I was floating at my body part two

723
00:31:04,899 --> 00:31:02,419
was under regression where know that

724
00:31:07,419 --> 00:31:04,909
it's like handing the battle between the

725
00:31:09,399 --> 00:31:07,429
end of the dream state into new memory

726
00:31:11,890 --> 00:31:09,409
that has come about as a result of

727
00:31:14,850 --> 00:31:11,900
regression hypnotic regression is very

728
00:31:18,190 --> 00:31:14,860
controversial absolutely and people

729
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:18,200
whether rightly or wrongly believe that

730
00:31:22,899 --> 00:31:20,960
it's easy to manipulate the memories and

731
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:22,909
that sometimes you will confabulate

732
00:31:27,789 --> 00:31:25,730
memories based on a singular experience

733
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:27,799
I'm not saying yes is what happened here

734
00:31:31,930 --> 00:31:29,690
I'm just bringing that up all right

735
00:31:34,150 --> 00:31:31,940
quite agree and that's the baseline for

736
00:31:36,490 --> 00:31:34,160
me too I mean I questioned it

737
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:36,500
you know is this now basically a

738
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:39,770
fabrication a distortion that's come

739
00:31:44,020 --> 00:31:41,570
from the subconscious and brought

740
00:31:45,970 --> 00:31:44,030
forward in my mind I quite agree that

741
00:31:48,370 --> 00:31:45,980
that's how one should approach it but

742
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:48,380
what has been more difficult for me it's

743
00:31:52,810 --> 00:31:50,330
a resolve it is the fact that the

744
00:31:55,450 --> 00:31:52,820
information that came forward I was not

745
00:31:57,340 --> 00:31:55,460
at all aware of in that environment it's

746
00:31:59,290 --> 00:31:57,350
five year old child and yet it is still

747
00:32:01,450 --> 00:31:59,300
there for people to go and see today

748
00:32:03,070 --> 00:32:01,460
it's kind of late okay you're and

749
00:32:05,770 --> 00:32:03,080
provided with new information but that

750
00:32:08,530 --> 00:32:05,780
information is not a lie it's not a

751
00:32:10,810 --> 00:32:08,540
distortion in the fact in the sense that

752
00:32:13,390 --> 00:32:10,820
it's there to be seen and checked out

753
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:13,400
yeah I don't know I keep an open mind

754
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:16,490
Jean a totally open mind on it but that

755
00:32:21,820 --> 00:32:19,370
I think may have bias the domino effect

756
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:21,830
inside of me when I saw my first set of

757
00:32:28,750 --> 00:32:25,490
circles in 83 you could say that I was

758
00:32:32,020 --> 00:32:28,760
already subconscious level even kind of

759
00:32:33,910 --> 00:32:32,030
trying to show an interest whereas other

760
00:32:36,010 --> 00:32:33,920
people were just passing these circles

761
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:36,020
by let me ask you here about the

762
00:32:41,260 --> 00:32:38,960
increase in crop circles now before that

763
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:41,270
happened were you still doing some sort

764
00:32:46,420 --> 00:32:44,090
of paranormal or UFO related research or

765
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:46,430
was that aside from the experiences a

766
00:32:52,150 --> 00:32:49,490
triggering factor oh I was not involved

767
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:52,160
with any other research at all I was a

768
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:54,080
senior official and regional government

769
00:32:59,020 --> 00:32:56,690
a very well-paid one and you know I had

770
00:33:01,630 --> 00:32:59,030
about 200 people under my management and

771
00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:01,640
I was on my way to a meeting and just a

772
00:33:06,390 --> 00:33:03,950
half second glance away from my vehicle

773
00:33:09,550 --> 00:33:06,400
on high ground seeing a set of five

774
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:09,560
perfectly formed circles forming across

775
00:33:14,650 --> 00:33:11,810
in a wheat field other people were just

776
00:33:17,020 --> 00:33:14,660
driving by continue their normal day for

777
00:33:19,870 --> 00:33:17,030
me it changed my life I mean literally

778
00:33:22,510 --> 00:33:19,880
so I was in some way primed I guess

779
00:33:25,750 --> 00:33:22,520
because I showed more than a flinching

780
00:33:28,150 --> 00:33:25,760
clan I went in I couldn't let it go

781
00:33:29,950 --> 00:33:28,160
I couldn't shake it off I had to

782
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:29,960
investigate and that's where the

783
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:32,720
research began let me just add something

784
00:33:38,590 --> 00:33:35,810
here ask a question here it sounds like

785
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:38,600
calling it like me you had for many

786
00:33:43,570 --> 00:33:40,610
years problems with the whole idea of

787
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:43,580
hypnotic regression has a real good

788
00:33:46,109 --> 00:33:45,890
viable in investigative tool but what

789
00:33:48,869 --> 00:33:46,119
I'm

790
00:33:51,149 --> 00:33:48,879
hearing here is that we may have a

791
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:51,159
pretty good example or a potential

792
00:33:55,889 --> 00:33:53,289
example of some sort of subconscious

793
00:33:57,749 --> 00:33:55,899
programming that may have gone on when

794
00:34:00,239 --> 00:33:57,759
you were a little boy and then all of a

795
00:34:03,299 --> 00:34:00,249
sudden it may have triggered something

796
00:34:04,949 --> 00:34:03,309
in you to glance over and see that first

797
00:34:06,749 --> 00:34:04,959
formation that that changed your life

798
00:34:07,229 --> 00:34:06,759
that's what that's what it sounds like

799
00:34:10,109 --> 00:34:07,239
to me

800
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:10,119
yeah well and it means experiencing it

801
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:12,129
inside of this skin that's how it is to

802
00:34:16,799 --> 00:34:14,079
me to what I think has made it more

803
00:34:19,499 --> 00:34:16,809
tenable as time has gone on is that I've

804
00:34:22,409 --> 00:34:19,509
started my work on the crop circles in

805
00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:22,419
the same skeptical mode you know his

806
00:34:25,799 --> 00:34:23,919
check and Cambridge check and wherever

807
00:34:28,109 --> 00:34:25,809
the information is out it takes you and

808
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:28,119
not to jump too far into our program but

809
00:34:34,319 --> 00:34:30,730
just it does tell as we passed this spot

810
00:34:37,980 --> 00:34:34,329
because I cannot completely discount

811
00:34:41,690 --> 00:34:37,990
that experience under hypnosis because

812
00:34:44,430 --> 00:34:41,700
other bizarre events a high strangeness

813
00:34:46,529 --> 00:34:44,440
supernatural kind of events have taken

814
00:34:48,690 --> 00:34:46,539
place since getting involved in the crop

815
00:34:52,889 --> 00:34:48,700
circle phenomena and those that would

816
00:34:54,509 --> 00:34:52,899
certainly appear to be intelligence it's

817
00:34:57,630 --> 00:34:54,519
you know an interaction with an

818
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individual and myself included and many

819
00:35:01,890 --> 00:34:59,529
others that are on the record in this

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00:35:05,609 --> 00:35:01,900
book and outside of it that have been

821
00:35:08,249 --> 00:35:05,619
influenced by these sorts that suddenly

822
00:35:10,229 --> 00:35:08,259
appear in our nowhere pattern and place

823
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:10,239
in a way that perhaps we can talk about

824
00:35:18,989 --> 00:35:15,089
that would involve some some process or

825
00:35:21,299 --> 00:35:18,999
implanting an external sort in your

826
00:35:23,609 --> 00:35:21,309
conscious mind that you then act out as

827
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:23,619
your own it's like I think experience

828
00:35:28,979 --> 00:35:26,049
this a couple of times myself it's like

829
00:35:30,989 --> 00:35:28,989
out of a normal day and a normal process

830
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:30,999
of thinking of course you know you'll

831
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suddenly think of something always

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summoned so I'm thinking if so and so

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and then and then the telephone rings

834
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and there they are that kind of

835
00:35:43,950 --> 00:35:40,809
experience is like what just happened

836
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:43,960
there but it's much more profound you

837
00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:45,249
get a pattern in your head and you think

838
00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:47,950
well burn them why am I thinking about

839
00:35:52,049 --> 00:35:50,200
that and then it goes on to give a

840
00:35:54,660 --> 00:35:52,059
suggestion that this pattern is

841
00:35:57,059 --> 00:35:54,670
something you can do something with you

842
00:35:59,640 --> 00:35:57,069
know and I've talked to a lot of people

843
00:36:02,070 --> 00:35:59,650
that make crop circles about this and

844
00:36:06,270 --> 00:36:02,080
is a consistency and a very bizarre one

845
00:36:09,090 --> 00:36:06,280
of acting out these strange thoughts if

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I am prepared to accept outside the box

847
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:11,770
that this is real and this is happening

848
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and happening across a whole range of

849
00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:16,930
subjects not just crop circles the UFO

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the interaction with the light in the

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sky flash once with a laser flash once

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with the you I thought okay well if I'm

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prepared to accept that then I have to

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be keep an open mind to regression

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the podcast just to let your listeners

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know we have loads of questions our

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listeners have asked to : Andrews there

966
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is no way we're going to be able to

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cover all those questions we'll probably

968
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have to have them come on again the book

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00:41:28,789 --> 00:41:26,069
on the edge of reality and you're

970
00:41:30,829 --> 00:41:28,799
talking about here an interaction or

971
00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:30,839
some sort of communication that you

972
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:33,839
believe exists between humans and some

973
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:37,410
sort of global or universal

974
00:41:44,089 --> 00:41:40,319
consciousness is this kind of a god-like

975
00:41:47,420 --> 00:41:44,099
belief or what well it's not a belief I

976
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:47,430
mean I am a person who at a young age

977
00:41:53,499 --> 00:41:50,400
kind of questions the whole concept of

978
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:53,509
God as it were I have through a whole

979
00:41:58,370 --> 00:41:56,160
you know obviously a whole long time of

980
00:42:00,440 --> 00:41:58,380
research investigation personal

981
00:42:02,029 --> 00:42:00,450
experience I don't accept that it's

982
00:42:04,190 --> 00:42:02,039
quite the way that has been taught

983
00:42:06,170 --> 00:42:04,200
I am certainly prepared and I would

984
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:06,180
never written this book and are not

985
00:42:10,999 --> 00:42:08,490
being convinced actually that there is

986
00:42:13,249 --> 00:42:11,009
another mind that is out there that

987
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:13,259
whether we call an extraterrestrial I

988
00:42:17,540 --> 00:42:14,970
don't think it's weird with time

989
00:42:19,730 --> 00:42:17,550
forever what we call it but there is an

990
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:19,740
intelligence that is working here and

991
00:42:25,790 --> 00:42:22,770
there's many many examples of it right

992
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:25,800
the way through the book so I don't okay

993
00:42:30,260 --> 00:42:28,050
god I guess it is God like it would be

994
00:42:32,510 --> 00:42:30,270
true to say in the sense for people that

995
00:42:35,540 --> 00:42:32,520
have the belief in one of these many

996
00:42:38,990 --> 00:42:35,550
religions that it probably is godlike

997
00:42:42,110 --> 00:42:39,000
but we don't need to see it as God it's

998
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:42,120
almost guyon and and almost like nature

999
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:45,330
or maybe some collective human

1000
00:42:52,220 --> 00:42:49,770
imperative or yeah subconscious at work

1001
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:52,230
I I would tend to jump towards the close

1002
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:54,240
system answer as opposed to jumping off

1003
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:56,490
planet myself but but it's really

1004
00:43:01,370 --> 00:42:58,050
compelling in the book you bring up

1005
00:43:03,980 --> 00:43:01,380
example after example of hoaxers going

1006
00:43:06,740 --> 00:43:03,990
out and pulling off impossible deeds and

1007
00:43:09,830 --> 00:43:06,750
examples of what seems to be compressed

1008
00:43:12,830 --> 00:43:09,840
time perfect alignment with you know

1009
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:12,840
this one formation had five was in a

1010
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:16,410
five-sided field and just coincidentally

1011
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:18,450
the crop circle makers went out there

1012
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:20,400
and put a perfect pentagram located

1013
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:22,110
exactly in the spot that it would that

1014
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:24,480
would be enhanced by the five sided

1015
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:27,510
field lines people meditating crop

1016
00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:29,760
circle formation ideas and they're in

1017
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:31,710
their head and a group and the next day

1018
00:43:36,020 --> 00:43:33,930
there it is there's so many examples

1019
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:36,030
like this that are very well documented

1020
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:38,370
are you throwing out any sort of ET

1021
00:43:43,660 --> 00:43:40,410
possibility or are you factoring it out

1022
00:43:47,300 --> 00:43:43,670
or you factoring it in where do you plan

1023
00:43:50,450 --> 00:43:47,310
well I think Chris we simply leave it

1024
00:43:52,460 --> 00:43:50,460
there on the side it's I mean we can't

1025
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:52,470
we just can't you know take every battle

1026
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:54,570
and make it our own well I've tried to

1027
00:43:59,600 --> 00:43:57,090
do we've tried to do in this book is to

1028
00:44:01,340 --> 00:43:59,610
establish that there's hard evidence to

1029
00:44:05,420 --> 00:44:01,350
support the actual reports that you've

1030
00:44:08,420 --> 00:44:05,430
just related and that there is beyond

1031
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:08,430
the possibilities of chance another mind

1032
00:44:13,660 --> 00:44:10,770
or another intelligence involved in it

1033
00:44:16,370 --> 00:44:13,670
that something is manipulating or or

1034
00:44:19,250 --> 00:44:16,380
interfering or or entering the domain of

1035
00:44:21,890 --> 00:44:19,260
man in ways that we had not previously

1036
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:21,900
anticipated you know there would seem to

1037
00:44:26,270 --> 00:44:24,330
have been a conversation going on here

1038
00:44:28,220 --> 00:44:26,280
inside of the subject of the crop

1039
00:44:28,549 --> 00:44:28,230
circles and I would extend that to many

1040
00:44:30,709 --> 00:44:28,559
other

1041
00:44:32,089 --> 00:44:30,719
subjects if not all of them and we

1042
00:44:34,670 --> 00:44:32,099
weren't aware that the conversation was

1043
00:44:36,859 --> 00:44:34,680
going on because we weren't talking

1044
00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:36,869
in fact many researchers wouldn't allow

1045
00:44:41,660 --> 00:44:39,660
the concept that people were making them

1046
00:44:44,959 --> 00:44:41,670
when in fact it was the people making

1047
00:44:48,229 --> 00:44:44,969
them that had held in their hands a

1048
00:44:51,140 --> 00:44:48,239
great deal of evidence that helped us

1049
00:44:54,170 --> 00:44:51,150
forward in our understanding of what's

1050
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:54,180
at work here I mean what has helped me

1051
00:44:58,819 --> 00:44:56,249
personally is that I've had my own

1052
00:45:00,499 --> 00:44:58,829
personal experiences and I don't expect

1053
00:45:03,380 --> 00:45:00,509
anybody to believe me

1054
00:45:05,779 --> 00:45:03,390
but I know for me that the reason I'm

1055
00:45:08,420 --> 00:45:05,789
talking to you today is because of my

1056
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:08,430
personal experiences I can do every of

1057
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:10,529
everybody else and perhaps it's even the

1058
00:45:16,130 --> 00:45:13,529
best way to go but I will not because I

1059
00:45:18,979 --> 00:45:16,140
know what happens to me I cannot date

1060
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:18,989
myself I know for example now I'll keep

1061
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:21,359
this brief then on one particular

1062
00:45:25,429 --> 00:45:22,890
evening there are many examples and they

1063
00:45:27,529 --> 00:45:25,439
are in the book but I meditated you

1064
00:45:30,949 --> 00:45:27,539
notice I didn't use the word praying I

1065
00:45:33,079 --> 00:45:30,959
some people will use that word but I was

1066
00:45:35,029 --> 00:45:33,089
meditating even all I'm doing is

1067
00:45:38,539 --> 00:45:35,039
projecting from the sincere place inside

1068
00:45:40,819 --> 00:45:38,549
of me inside of myself asking whatever

1069
00:45:42,949 --> 00:45:40,829
is out there to produce a pattern I'm

1070
00:45:45,319 --> 00:45:42,959
visualizing a Celtic Cross never

1071
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:45,329
appeared on our planet Earth before in

1072
00:45:50,689 --> 00:45:46,890
the largest database in the world that I

1073
00:45:53,089 --> 00:45:50,699
own and here I'm saying two things

1074
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:53,099
could this be produced and as close to

1075
00:45:58,219 --> 00:45:55,890
my home as possible now I only have

1076
00:46:00,319 --> 00:45:58,229
myself to believe in this and I expect

1077
00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:00,329
nobody else to believe that but what

1078
00:46:05,809 --> 00:46:02,609
happened eyes I was laid on that same

1079
00:46:07,759 --> 00:46:05,819
bed that night the early morning the

1080
00:46:09,799 --> 00:46:07,769
telephone when a farmer who I knew

1081
00:46:12,469 --> 00:46:09,809
programs had been made out of this sense

1082
00:46:15,169 --> 00:46:12,479
is Jeff Smith close to my home near

1083
00:46:16,999 --> 00:46:15,179
Stonehenge saying : I can give you two

1084
00:46:19,489 --> 00:46:17,009
hours to look at something we find in

1085
00:46:22,459 --> 00:46:19,499
the field that field happens to be the

1086
00:46:25,609 --> 00:46:22,469
last one they had plants in it close to

1087
00:46:28,009 --> 00:46:25,619
my home I wasn't aware of this not at

1088
00:46:30,620 --> 00:46:28,019
that time in the field he had discovered

1089
00:46:34,039 --> 00:46:30,630
the very design that I had meditated on

1090
00:46:37,069 --> 00:46:34,049
and requested that night I swear to you

1091
00:46:39,259 --> 00:46:37,079
I didn't make it I've never made a crop

1092
00:46:41,370 --> 00:46:39,269
circle I held the end of a tape with

1093
00:46:44,670 --> 00:46:41,380
somebody who showed me how they did on

1094
00:46:46,890 --> 00:46:44,680
on occasion but so these are facts and

1095
00:46:50,190 --> 00:46:46,900
everything in that book it is truthful

1096
00:46:53,310 --> 00:46:50,200
as I've been able to you know personally

1097
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:53,320
I put my name to well let me ask you to

1098
00:46:57,570 --> 00:46:55,810
expand upon that the common perception

1099
00:47:00,060 --> 00:46:57,580
of crop circles is that these are

1100
00:47:01,950 --> 00:47:00,070
budding artists who just go out there in

1101
00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:01,960
the field and they do their stuff but

1102
00:47:05,970 --> 00:47:03,910
you're saying they may be doing

1103
00:47:09,290 --> 00:47:05,980
something but they are influenced by

1104
00:47:11,970 --> 00:47:09,300
this hidden or subconscious force

1105
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:11,980
absolutely and these guys who I am

1106
00:47:17,370 --> 00:47:14,290
talking with and I have been made for

1107
00:47:19,410 --> 00:47:17,380
the last 13 years of the last 30 I was

1108
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:19,420
sure slow getting there for the same

1109
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:21,970
reason as many of my fellow you know

1110
00:47:26,010 --> 00:47:23,530
researchers that came along in later

1111
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:26,020
years they had the problem of talking to

1112
00:47:30,750 --> 00:47:28,510
people who were deceiving us or at least

1113
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:30,760
that was her perception of it but

1114
00:47:35,550 --> 00:47:33,130
absolutely I mean I you know I've when I

1115
00:47:37,410 --> 00:47:35,560
opened the dialog following a special

1116
00:47:41,340 --> 00:47:37,420
investigation that Laurance Rockefeller

1117
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:41,350
funded back in 99 and year 2000 resolved

1118
00:47:47,130 --> 00:47:43,690
at that time that 20% we couldn't

1119
00:47:49,980 --> 00:47:47,140
resolve 80% would be made by people that

1120
00:47:52,860 --> 00:47:49,990
was right back then talking with these

1121
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:52,870
people it was just extraordinary I was

1122
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:54,730
hearing from these guys that I had never

1123
00:48:00,780 --> 00:47:58,240
spoken to before you know my fall I take

1124
00:48:02,550 --> 00:48:00,790
the rap for that convincing the world

1125
00:48:04,620 --> 00:48:02,560
they couldn't be made by people right

1126
00:48:07,620 --> 00:48:04,630
under my nose here they are made by

1127
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:07,630
these people and they're telling me the

1128
00:48:11,490 --> 00:48:09,130
very things they've had as paranormal

1129
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:11,500
supernatural kind of experiences they

1130
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:13,210
didn't know I already had in my files

1131
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:15,010
that it happens to me and other people

1132
00:48:20,370 --> 00:48:17,410
researching them and indeed incidentally

1133
00:48:22,890 --> 00:48:20,380
farmers police officers and other people

1134
00:48:25,770 --> 00:48:22,900
too I think when the world wakes up to

1135
00:48:27,870 --> 00:48:25,780
the fact that the bizarre nature of what

1136
00:48:30,330 --> 00:48:27,880
we've already discussed in this program

1137
00:48:32,550 --> 00:48:30,340
when they realized this is happening to

1138
00:48:34,260 --> 00:48:32,560
their favorite pop star it's happening

1139
00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:34,270
to their favorite minister whichever

1140
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:36,670
religion they believe in and it's

1141
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:38,290
happening to their favorite politician

1142
00:48:41,460 --> 00:48:40,480
they put into power and just about

1143
00:48:44,550 --> 00:48:41,470
everybody else

1144
00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:44,560
they will realize that nothing was the

1145
00:48:50,370 --> 00:48:47,470
same nothing is the same that's the way

1146
00:48:54,420 --> 00:48:50,380
it appears I remember when I first

1147
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:54,430
talked to you in 1999 on the phone you

1148
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:56,079
right in the middle of this particular

1149
00:49:00,420 --> 00:48:58,450
research project yeah we're members of a

1150
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:00,430
pretty interesting exclusive little Club

1151
00:49:05,339 --> 00:49:02,710
to which we can talk about later but I

1152
00:49:07,950 --> 00:49:05,349
remember you were at the time you seemed

1153
00:49:10,770 --> 00:49:07,960
pretty upset that you had discovered

1154
00:49:12,270 --> 00:49:10,780
that a vast majority of these formations

1155
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:12,280
appeared to be human-made and at the

1156
00:49:17,220 --> 00:49:14,770
time you really hadn't understood the

1157
00:49:19,260 --> 00:49:17,230
implications of what the circle makers

1158
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:19,270
then went on to inform you that

1159
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:21,040
sometimes they don't even know why they

1160
00:49:25,770 --> 00:49:23,170
do the formations they do oftentimes

1161
00:49:28,109 --> 00:49:25,780
these formations or the fields are

1162
00:49:30,329 --> 00:49:28,119
picked at random it's not as as

1163
00:49:32,579 --> 00:49:30,339
coordinated as some people might imagine

1164
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:32,589
sometimes in the middle of an operation

1165
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:35,050
they'll change the design for instance

1166
00:49:39,809 --> 00:49:38,079
and not know why there's many examples

1167
00:49:43,410 --> 00:49:39,819
in the book which I find very compelling

1168
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:43,420
that these people even though at 99 you

1169
00:49:46,140 --> 00:49:44,770
were upset that they were hoaxes in

1170
00:49:48,059 --> 00:49:46,150
these circles now you realize that

1171
00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:48,069
they're part of the equation yeah

1172
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:50,470
absolutely we have been presented with a

1173
00:49:56,599 --> 00:49:53,890
clean sheet of paper in 1976 this is the

1174
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:56,609
way the broad overview that I see a

1175
00:50:01,260 --> 00:49:59,920
subject CASP without a diving cast it

1176
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:01,270
was a clean sheet of paper in other

1177
00:50:04,589 --> 00:50:03,280
words here we are let's look at this

1178
00:50:07,470 --> 00:50:04,599
from something that that's beginning

1179
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:07,480
from the from start we have one crop

1180
00:50:11,609 --> 00:50:09,520
circle we have one experience of an

1181
00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:11,619
orange light appearing in the sky two

1182
00:50:17,069 --> 00:50:14,470
people abducted they claim to be told

1183
00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:17,079
that this area is going to be an area

1184
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:19,599
that's going to be seeing evolution of

1185
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:22,210
design they're showing the designs then

1186
00:50:27,660 --> 00:50:23,770
we have a voice that appears on a

1187
00:50:30,180 --> 00:50:27,670
television news broadcast in 1977 in the

1188
00:50:32,220 --> 00:50:30,190
same exactly the same geographic area of

1189
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:32,230
central southern England and conveys an

1190
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:34,089
information related to the environment

1191
00:50:38,819 --> 00:50:36,880
and our political and military system

1192
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:38,829
and so it evolved from there those

1193
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:41,770
designs disappear they have evolved in

1194
00:50:46,620 --> 00:50:44,079
that field the television transmission

1195
00:50:48,210 --> 00:50:46,630
that came was transmitted to about just

1196
00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:48,220
under a million people and I was one of

1197
00:50:54,930 --> 00:50:51,430
them as it happens again coincidentally

1198
00:50:57,150 --> 00:50:54,940
perhaps so this is how this whole thing

1199
00:51:00,120 --> 00:50:57,160
has evolved and so we had comes at the

1200
00:51:01,530 --> 00:51:00,130
stage people who began to make them when

1201
00:51:03,690 --> 00:51:01,540
we were first putting out the first

1202
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:03,700
television documentaries on this my

1203
00:51:07,950 --> 00:51:06,130
belief is that most were virgin designs

1204
00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:07,960
I've traveled the world looking

1205
00:51:12,420 --> 00:51:10,630
and you know there's more simple designs

1206
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:12,430
the more problem likely they are to be

1207
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:15,130
not made by people the more complex the

1208
00:51:19,260 --> 00:51:16,810
more likely they are to be made by

1209
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:19,270
people counterintuitive a lot of people

1210
00:51:24,570 --> 00:51:21,280
have never accepted that but that's what

1211
00:51:27,420 --> 00:51:24,580
those are my findings : Andrews is

1212
00:51:29,820 --> 00:51:27,430
author with Cynthia Andrews of on the

1213
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:29,830
edge of reality and that certainly

1214
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:31,570
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1215
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1218
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1230
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1231
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1232
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1233
00:52:24,990 --> 00:52:23,410
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1234
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:25,000
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1235
00:52:28,530 --> 00:52:26,770
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1236
00:52:30,210 --> 00:52:28,540
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1237
00:52:31,830 --> 00:52:30,220
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1238
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:31,840
when stating a central bank issuing the

1239
00:52:34,620 --> 00:52:33,490
public currency is a greater menace to

1240
00:52:35,970 --> 00:52:34,630
the liberties of the people than a

1241
00:52:37,410 --> 00:52:35,980
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1242
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:37,420
placing a free silver dollar in a book

1243
00:52:42,690 --> 00:52:39,250
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1244
00:52:45,900 --> 00:52:42,700
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1245
00:52:50,910 --> 00:52:45,910
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1246
00:52:52,770 --> 00:52:50,920
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1247
00:52:55,140 --> 00:52:52,780
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1248
00:52:57,390 --> 00:52:55,150
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1249
00:53:00,300 --> 00:52:57,400
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1250
00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:00,310
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1252
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1254
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1255
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:10,960
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1256
00:53:14,820 --> 00:53:12,730
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1257
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1258
00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:17,200
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1259
00:53:21,660 --> 00:53:18,790
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1260
00:53:24,270 --> 00:53:21,670
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1261
00:53:26,580 --> 00:53:24,280
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1262
00:53:28,620 --> 00:53:26,590
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1263
00:53:31,590 --> 00:53:28,630
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1264
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:31,600
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1269
00:54:04,460 --> 00:54:00,120
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1270
00:54:13,020 --> 00:54:04,470
standard a paranormal radio and now

1271
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:13,030
here's Jane Steinberg with gene and Kris

1272
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:15,040
and the power castes we're talking about

1273
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:17,530
the background of crop circle research

1274
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:21,130
and : Andrew suggesting that even though

1275
00:54:26,330 --> 00:54:24,010
these are in many cases being done by

1276
00:54:28,890 --> 00:54:26,340
regular human beings they're being

1277
00:54:30,570 --> 00:54:28,900
influenced from somewhere else and

1278
00:54:33,390 --> 00:54:30,580
before we get to the questions just a

1279
00:54:36,540 --> 00:54:33,400
quick inquiry on my part : and that is

1280
00:54:39,630 --> 00:54:36,550
alright if you're dealing with a global

1281
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:39,640
or universal intelligence alien or

1282
00:54:44,970 --> 00:54:42,640
otherwise how do you prove that how do

1283
00:54:47,970 --> 00:54:44,980
you find the nuts and bolts of that or

1284
00:54:50,220 --> 00:54:47,980
do you just have to believe no I think

1285
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:50,230
there's a middle a middle ground here

1286
00:54:56,070 --> 00:54:53,200
and I think it is by sharing the

1287
00:54:58,620 --> 00:54:56,080
information the belief comes by first of

1288
00:55:01,710 --> 00:54:58,630
all being able to imagine a situation a

1289
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:01,720
scenario an event and then to have other

1290
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:03,370
individuals sharing and their

1291
00:55:07,410 --> 00:55:05,290
experiences however outlandish and

1292
00:55:09,540 --> 00:55:07,420
unbelievable which is something I've had

1293
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:09,550
to do myself in recent years share

1294
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:11,530
things that I've kept secret and I've

1295
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:14,170
since had a return on that investment by

1296
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:16,240
people sharing their experiences with me

1297
00:55:21,060 --> 00:55:18,730
and so the reality of what's happening

1298
00:55:24,060 --> 00:55:21,070
slowly changes and the reservoir

1299
00:55:26,010 --> 00:55:24,070
thinking changes with it and so the

1300
00:55:27,630 --> 00:55:26,020
belief comes from

1301
00:55:30,180 --> 00:55:27,640
understanding of believing that this is

1302
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:30,190
a broader problem than just your own and

1303
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:33,970
so I think that evolution is where we

1304
00:55:38,820 --> 00:55:36,970
head into a new direction where I think

1305
00:55:41,310 --> 00:55:38,830
the book is or is actually having an

1306
00:55:43,530 --> 00:55:41,320
impact find they say that myself is that

1307
00:55:45,870 --> 00:55:43,540
it's opening up a new kind of discussion

1308
00:55:47,970 --> 00:55:45,880
not that nobody else's Hall about this

1309
00:55:50,850 --> 00:55:47,980
not at all I know you've done great work

1310
00:55:54,180 --> 00:55:50,860
especially on the UFO both of you and

1311
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:54,190
you know you you have an inquiring minds

1312
00:55:59,070 --> 00:55:56,650
that will seek out the same kind of data

1313
00:56:00,780 --> 00:55:59,080
but bringing them together in a broader

1314
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:00,790
perspective and seeing how it works in

1315
00:56:05,850 --> 00:56:03,280
politics religion and other subjects we

1316
00:56:08,730 --> 00:56:05,860
begin to see that we are evolving along

1317
00:56:11,490 --> 00:56:08,740
a pathway we are on a program that is

1318
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:11,500
not necessarily without some help or

1319
00:56:16,530 --> 00:56:14,410
direction from other places good or bad

1320
00:56:18,990 --> 00:56:16,540
and I don't know whether it is

1321
00:56:21,150 --> 00:56:19,000
necessarily heading towards a good place

1322
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:21,160
or a bad place but I think it is our

1323
00:56:26,430 --> 00:56:24,010
responsibility to attempt to make it a

1324
00:56:29,130 --> 00:56:26,440
good place you know by trying to seek

1325
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:29,140
out in all of this information truth and

1326
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:32,050
that's where I get victor for a majorly

1327
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:35,650
with our governments and many others you

1328
00:56:41,910 --> 00:56:37,690
know in the multinational companies etc

1329
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:41,920
etc truth is a very important ingredient

1330
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:44,650
it takes us to a better organized oh

1331
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:47,890
yeah yeah I mean you know it takes us to

1332
00:56:54,270 --> 00:56:51,310
a better place and and so you know I

1333
00:56:56,540 --> 00:56:54,280
think extraterrestrial in this piece of

1334
00:56:58,110 --> 00:56:56,550
the equation we can guess whether it's

1335
00:57:00,600 --> 00:56:58,120
extraterrestrial but it's certainly

1336
00:57:02,610 --> 00:57:00,610
extra human I will put my name on that

1337
00:57:05,550 --> 00:57:02,620
if I have with the book I'm very

1338
00:57:08,370 --> 00:57:05,560
confident that there's a helping hand

1339
00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:08,380
here one thing that I noticed early on

1340
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:10,870
in the book is the observation that many

1341
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:13,330
of these formations when you see them on

1342
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:15,130
the ground you don't realize how they're

1343
00:57:21,180 --> 00:57:17,440
they appear to be interacting with the

1344
00:57:24,300 --> 00:57:21,190
environment location of supposed ley

1345
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:24,310
lines Roman roads standing stone

1346
00:57:31,050 --> 00:57:28,240
formations and I'm it's always kind of

1347
00:57:33,810 --> 00:57:31,060
puzzled me why that particular part of

1348
00:57:36,990 --> 00:57:33,820
the world why look the Wilshire area

1349
00:57:38,579 --> 00:57:37,000
which is highly concentrated for the

1350
00:57:40,620 --> 00:57:38,589
crop circle phenomenon

1351
00:57:41,989 --> 00:57:40,630
here in southern England have you given

1352
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:41,999
any thought of why this

1353
00:57:48,660 --> 00:57:46,210
besides Doug and Dave getting out yeah

1354
00:57:50,609 --> 00:57:48,670
by the way you point out they didn't

1355
00:57:52,859 --> 00:57:50,619
even realize why they were doing some of

1356
00:57:54,959 --> 00:57:52,869
these early circles they would look at

1357
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:54,969
each other and go why are we out here

1358
00:57:58,739 --> 00:57:56,559
yeah great you've covered a lot of

1359
00:58:02,069 --> 00:57:58,749
ground there but I nearly I know it but

1360
00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:02,079
it's it's the the the actual location

1361
00:58:07,769 --> 00:58:05,710
itself yeah and you address that yeah

1362
00:58:09,690 --> 00:58:07,779
yes I'll certainly attempt to I mean a

1363
00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:09,700
lot of support is put to this because

1364
00:58:14,670 --> 00:58:12,249
you know throw its correlations that one

1365
00:58:16,620 --> 00:58:14,680
always looks for in the data and here if

1366
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:16,630
you have something they were an area

1367
00:58:21,089 --> 00:58:18,640
where you're getting 90% of the world's

1368
00:58:21,539 --> 00:58:21,099
total reports good and bad real and

1369
00:58:24,450 --> 00:58:21,549
hoaxes

1370
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:24,460
then there's something there that we

1371
00:58:29,390 --> 00:58:27,609
need to understand and where I would go

1372
00:58:31,979 --> 00:58:29,400
with that is there are several things

1373
00:58:34,349 --> 00:58:31,989
archaeological sites are predominant in

1374
00:58:36,329 --> 00:58:34,359
that area that may or may not be

1375
00:58:39,299 --> 00:58:36,339
connected with it but it has a spiritual

1376
00:58:41,999 --> 00:58:39,309
component it has a component of man's

1377
00:58:44,579 --> 00:58:42,009
investment in his mind they were not

1378
00:58:47,339 --> 00:58:44,589
constructed for no reason you know these

1379
00:58:51,029 --> 00:58:47,349
are mammoth undertakings Stonehenge that

1380
00:58:53,370 --> 00:58:51,039
stones 80 tons or from area miles away

1381
00:58:55,170 --> 00:58:53,380
this is not a small task you know you're

1382
00:58:58,279 --> 00:58:55,180
building the largest man-made pyramids

1383
00:59:01,319 --> 00:58:58,289
mound at Silbury Hill the largest

1384
00:59:03,420 --> 00:59:01,329
archaeological site a monolithic stone

1385
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:03,430
structure of Avebury all in that same

1386
00:59:07,859 --> 00:59:05,440
area these are not small undertakings

1387
00:59:09,690 --> 00:59:07,869
why were they put there well it's a

1388
00:59:11,519 --> 00:59:09,700
separate question but that is a

1389
00:59:12,930 --> 00:59:11,529
correlation in the data another

1390
00:59:15,269 --> 00:59:12,940
correlation is that there are vast

1391
00:59:17,519 --> 00:59:15,279
quantities of water that are moving

1392
00:59:20,249 --> 00:59:17,529
underground in the chalk strata the

1393
00:59:22,349 --> 00:59:20,259
geostrategy of it actually consumes and

1394
00:59:25,319 --> 00:59:22,359
absorbs large quantities of water that's

1395
00:59:27,029 --> 00:59:25,329
pretty unique to our planet there are

1396
00:59:29,459 --> 00:59:27,039
not many places that have a geo

1397
00:59:31,739 --> 00:59:29,469
structure but here's the other one and I

1398
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:31,749
think it's probably the most significant

1399
00:59:36,779 --> 00:59:34,450
this came out also incidentally at the

1400
00:59:38,849 --> 00:59:36,789
user range the skinwalker books written

1401
00:59:40,499 --> 00:59:38,859
the babe dropper Bigelow's work you know

1402
00:59:42,690 --> 00:59:40,509
took a team there I was invited to be

1403
00:59:44,009 --> 00:59:42,700
part of a team at one point but they

1404
00:59:46,799 --> 00:59:44,019
discovered the same thing as we've

1405
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:46,809
discovered here we have an area that

1406
00:59:52,380 --> 00:59:49,359
appears to be a Stargate kind situation

1407
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:52,390
some kind of placement of a

1408
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:54,970
interface between dimensions where the

1409
01:00:00,329 --> 00:59:57,450
most inexplicable and unknown happens

1410
01:00:02,759 --> 01:00:00,339
most of which is not understood at all

1411
01:00:05,430 --> 01:00:02,769
only that there's a place in the sky

1412
01:00:07,049 --> 01:00:05,440
where these objects appear there are

1413
01:00:09,150 --> 01:00:07,059
animals that have never been seen before

1414
01:00:11,609 --> 01:00:09,160
anywhere else at any other time the

1415
01:00:14,269 --> 01:00:11,619
Native Americans knew about them here

1416
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:14,279
and in back in England the Celts

1417
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:17,049
constructed sites would seem perhaps to

1418
01:00:22,170 --> 01:00:20,079
mark those locations and still very Hill

1419
01:00:24,690 --> 01:00:22,180
and I'll terminate this point here but

1420
01:00:27,809 --> 01:00:24,700
Silbury Hill is an archaeological site

1421
01:00:31,099 --> 01:00:27,819
and major one where absolutely countless

1422
01:00:35,579 --> 01:00:31,109
high strangeness events occur including

1423
01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:35,589
UFO et crop circles vehicles of dying

1424
01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:37,510
engines animals that are seen that have

1425
01:00:41,339 --> 01:00:38,559
never been seen before

1426
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:41,349
so you've very striking similarity and

1427
01:00:46,410 --> 01:00:43,839
that might be why we're getting the

1428
01:00:49,019 --> 01:00:46,420
interaction with humans - in that

1429
01:00:51,170 --> 01:00:49,029
specific area I am aware incidentally

1430
01:00:54,779 --> 01:00:51,180
that the u.s. government and UK

1431
01:00:57,029 --> 01:00:54,789
government's have been actively involved

1432
01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:57,039
in their own research of that area maybe

1433
01:01:00,120 --> 01:00:58,240
when you've got a few more minutes I

1434
01:01:02,249 --> 01:01:00,130
could if you wanted to expand upon that

1435
01:01:05,759 --> 01:01:02,259
all right so we have to clarify this

1436
01:01:08,279 --> 01:01:05,769
here other than the areas where crop

1437
01:01:10,380 --> 01:01:08,289
circles are seen in the UK what about

1438
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:10,390
the US what about South America what

1439
01:01:14,069 --> 01:01:13,119
about other parts of the world very

1440
01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:14,079
linear at all

1441
01:01:19,529 --> 01:01:16,960
yes we do we see them in many many

1442
01:01:22,349 --> 01:01:19,539
countries but the volume has not been

1443
01:01:24,420 --> 01:01:22,359
enough really I think to echo these

1444
01:01:26,370 --> 01:01:24,430
drawing the painting if you like that

1445
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:26,380
this is the example I will give you in

1446
01:01:33,269 --> 01:01:29,410
America in the in New York New York

1447
01:01:36,059 --> 01:01:33,279
State Herkimer and in other states -

1448
01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:36,069
there are less events but there are hot

1449
01:01:40,859 --> 01:01:38,319
spots there hot spots with a few events

1450
01:01:43,769 --> 01:01:40,869
there are not enough events to give us

1451
01:01:46,019 --> 01:01:43,779
what it is we might be looking for in

1452
01:01:48,450 --> 01:01:46,029
other words for patterning in that area

1453
01:01:50,730 --> 01:01:48,460
where they perhaps will occur and I

1454
01:01:52,799 --> 01:01:50,740
think they probably will at some point

1455
01:01:55,980 --> 01:01:52,809
in the future in southern England

1456
01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:55,990
because you know there is this of course

1457
01:02:01,589 --> 01:01:58,960
a small island there is a conglomeration

1458
01:02:03,870 --> 01:02:01,599
of activity in the past related to the

1459
01:02:05,700 --> 01:02:03,880
archaeological site and has been

1460
01:02:06,279 --> 01:02:05,710
duplicated and mirrored by the crop

1461
01:02:09,130 --> 01:02:06,289
circle

1462
01:02:11,589 --> 01:02:09,140
phenomena now here we have a large one

1463
01:02:13,989 --> 01:02:11,599
over two thousand reports I were two and

1464
01:02:17,559 --> 01:02:13,999
a half thousand now in the database here

1465
01:02:19,419 --> 01:02:17,569
I mean hundreds appearing at peak than

1466
01:02:22,299 --> 01:02:19,429
its dropping away dramatically dropping

1467
01:02:25,749 --> 01:02:22,309
away right now but here we have enough

1468
01:02:27,909 --> 01:02:25,759
data and that locations to see that

1469
01:02:31,870 --> 01:02:27,919
they're forming a pattern and that there

1470
01:02:34,659 --> 01:02:31,880
is a very precise geometry that has been

1471
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:34,669
etched out for us over the last thirty

1472
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:36,890
years that actually forms an equilateral

1473
01:02:41,919 --> 01:02:40,130
triangle in the landscape Reverend about

1474
01:02:45,309 --> 01:02:41,929
forty precisely forty one and a half

1475
01:02:47,709 --> 01:02:45,319
miles radius from Stonehenge I've got a

1476
01:02:50,019 --> 01:02:47,719
question that might that might relate to

1477
01:02:52,150 --> 01:02:50,029
this obviously we're gonna get into

1478
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:52,160
talking about science work of WC

1479
01:02:57,009 --> 01:02:54,650
Levengood and BLT research some of the

1480
01:02:58,989 --> 01:02:57,019
early scientific work that has been done

1481
01:03:00,609 --> 01:02:58,999
to try to determine if we can

1482
01:03:02,499 --> 01:03:00,619
differentiate between the man-made

1483
01:03:04,900 --> 01:03:02,509
circles and the ones that are truly high

1484
01:03:06,189 --> 01:03:04,910
strange this is a question that comes

1485
01:03:10,269 --> 01:03:06,199
from techno-magic

1486
01:03:12,519 --> 01:03:10,279
T at forum dr. Peric ascom and he wants

1487
01:03:14,829 --> 01:03:12,529
to know if we know of any technologies

1488
01:03:17,109 --> 01:03:14,839
developed by humans number one to have

1489
01:03:19,870 --> 01:03:17,119
the potential to create crop circles

1490
01:03:23,489 --> 01:03:19,880
other than the old-fashioned board and

1491
01:03:25,739 --> 01:03:23,499
and string and have there been any

1492
01:03:28,409 --> 01:03:25,749
additional scientific progress

1493
01:03:31,269 --> 01:03:28,419
identifying the cause of crop circles

1494
01:03:33,249 --> 01:03:31,279
Levengood mentioned plasma vortices of

1495
01:03:35,709 --> 01:03:33,259
that sort of thing where do you come

1496
01:03:37,479 --> 01:03:35,719
down on the science of this let's hold

1497
01:03:40,329 --> 01:03:37,489
that answer till our next segment okay

1498
01:03:42,519 --> 01:03:40,339
Elaine andrews joins gene and Chris lots

1499
01:03:47,220 --> 01:03:42,529
more questions to be answered you're in

1500
01:03:51,170 --> 01:03:48,490
[Music]

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order online the site went down it just

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1514
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critically acclaimed success and now

1515
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there's the coming of the protectors a

1516
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former military intelligence man is

1517
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contacted by a space woman in a dream a

1518
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dream that turns out to be a nightmare

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because evil forces on our distant

1520
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planet are planning to conquer the earth

1521
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this is gripping science fiction of the

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classic kind attack of the rock OIG's

1523
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and the coming of the protectors find

1524
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out more and Rockets calm that's rock

1525
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ODEs are Ock oids calm quantitative

1526
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easing unemployment at depression levels

1527
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Europe financial system falling apart

1528
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China getting out of US Treasuries at

1529
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the end of 2008 the time of tarp the

1530
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national debt was at eleven trillion

1531
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gold trading around $850 per ounce close

1532
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to 2012 the national debt exceeded

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1534
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a $1,600 Franz the twenty trillion

1535
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threshold for the national debt is

1536
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inevitable politicians in Washington

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have a ferocious appetite for spending

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and stimulus what's worse a printing

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press to finance 100 years ago we had a

1540
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gold standard to limit this madness but

1541
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now you have to adopt your own gold

1542
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standard don't be fooled with paper

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a food it sounds crazy but I'll show you

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revealing FEMA's plot can land me in hot

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water and I think you deserve and know

1548
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exactly what they're doing go to FEMA

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1550
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video proof that the government is on

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the hunt for as much survival food as

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they can grab in 24 hours be warned it's

1553
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really disturbing because the fact is

1554
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FEMA must know something we don't go to

1555
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FEMA hates this calm to see one survival

1556
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food is the number one item to hoard

1557
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right now and why supplies are so low or

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even completely sold out already at many

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1595
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answer all the questions we have Chris

1596
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posed the first one at the end of our

1597
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previous segment : what's your response

1598
01:08:31,930 --> 01:08:29,719
well coming to the sciences now if the

1599
01:08:33,579 --> 01:08:31,940
scientific work has been done you know

1600
01:08:35,649 --> 01:08:33,589
as I've mentioned I'm an electrical

1601
01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:35,659
engineer in myself so my bias has been

1602
01:08:38,499 --> 01:08:36,319
to what I know

1603
01:08:40,419 --> 01:08:38,509
let's go engineering so the first thing

1604
01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:40,429
that I was involved in the pirate front

1605
01:08:44,079 --> 01:08:42,560
gathering the data of the placement of

1606
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:44,089
these things that I mentioned their

1607
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alignments to magnetic north you know is

1608
01:08:53,890 --> 01:08:50,119
where I was coming from initially I did

1609
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:53,900
the magnetometer tests and these and

1610
01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:56,210
showed that a small number of them the

1611
01:08:59,919 --> 01:08:58,130
more simple ones once again we come back

1612
01:09:02,050 --> 01:08:59,929
to that showed that there were a

1613
01:09:04,859 --> 01:09:02,060
magnetic anomalies sometimes as much as

1614
01:09:07,780 --> 01:09:04,869
300% increase in the magnetic field and

1615
01:09:10,410 --> 01:09:07,790
patterning in those measurements the

1616
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:10,420
actual design of the circle itself

1617
01:09:15,939 --> 01:09:13,730
that's an astounding fact and it is only

1618
01:09:20,620 --> 01:09:15,949
actually happened it's been measured in

1619
01:09:24,189 --> 01:09:20,630
a small number of designs and so that's

1620
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:24,199
one scientific results which has still

1621
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:27,650
to be worked with and if fully evaluated

1622
01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:30,770
fully understood that part one part two

1623
01:09:36,309 --> 01:09:33,920
I'm not a biologist and says I'd be very

1624
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:36,319
careful how I'm setting myself up here

1625
01:09:40,450 --> 01:09:38,329
because this is a very controversial

1626
01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:40,460
area and I know you've had Nancy tawba

1627
01:09:45,700 --> 01:09:43,520
on your program and you know PLC level

1628
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:45,710
good work has been there it's a large

1629
01:09:51,039 --> 01:09:49,250
body of work I happen to be and it is

1630
01:09:54,129 --> 01:09:51,049
regrettable because it has caused

1631
01:09:56,020 --> 01:09:54,139
friction you know amongst us not

1632
01:09:58,720 --> 01:09:56,030
anything I've taken to the personally

1633
01:10:01,359 --> 01:09:58,730
but it has been kind of throw back at me

1634
01:10:01,990 --> 01:10:01,369
personally which is kind of difficult to

1635
01:10:03,700 --> 01:10:02,000
deal with

1636
01:10:06,370 --> 01:10:03,710
because in the public domain

1637
01:10:08,290 --> 01:10:06,380
you know I didn't ask to become a public

1638
01:10:11,740 --> 01:10:08,300
figure but I've kind of become one in

1639
01:10:13,810 --> 01:10:11,750
this subject arena it's a difficult area

1640
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:13,820
now the body of work must speak for

1641
01:10:20,020 --> 01:10:16,610
itself and its representatives will

1642
01:10:23,350 --> 01:10:20,030
present it as a body of work what I know

1643
01:10:26,590 --> 01:10:23,360
is that I place many plant samples to

1644
01:10:29,500 --> 01:10:26,600
university Sheffield biologists years

1645
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:29,510
before 11 good received his own which

1646
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:31,730
was from my team a pack dog Adam sent

1647
01:10:36,220 --> 01:10:34,130
first ones from some of the early

1648
01:10:39,790 --> 01:10:36,230
designs we were looking at which excited

1649
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:39,800
him mystified him with his work there

1650
01:10:44,170 --> 01:10:42,050
were changes at the cellular level that

1651
01:10:48,250 --> 01:10:44,180
there were results there that he felt

1652
01:10:50,770 --> 01:10:48,260
were not natural in the sense of you

1653
01:10:53,890 --> 01:10:50,780
know not natural vortices meteorological

1654
01:10:57,220 --> 01:10:53,900
or otherwise and perhaps even a plasma

1655
01:10:59,950 --> 01:10:57,230
electrified plasma being involved no

1656
01:11:02,500 --> 01:10:59,960
levels of microwave well this is where

1657
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:02,510
it becomes controversial I accept my my

1658
01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:07,130
part of this is that I was informed by

1659
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:10,910
the team that had worked with me and

1660
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:12,770
actually we're still working with me at

1661
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:15,770
a small degree who had become the

1662
01:11:21,970 --> 01:11:18,410
samplers in Great Britain plant samplers

1663
01:11:23,500 --> 01:11:21,980
for BRC well they fell because they

1664
01:11:25,750 --> 01:11:23,510
weren't happy with the results they were

1665
01:11:28,570 --> 01:11:25,760
saying they didn't seem to satisfy them

1666
01:11:30,390 --> 01:11:28,580
because they thought strongly that what

1667
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:30,400
they saw under their feet were man-made

1668
01:11:35,170 --> 01:11:32,810
not in every case I'm just saying that

1669
01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:35,180
in some cases where they felt they were

1670
01:11:39,670 --> 01:11:37,280
looking at manmade they saw tracks this

1671
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:39,680
will damage to plants and other evidence

1672
01:11:42,790 --> 01:11:41,210
that they for power I think this has

1673
01:11:44,740 --> 01:11:42,800
been made by people but nonetheless

1674
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:44,750
their obligation was to send these

1675
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:48,290
plants samples and inside these areas to

1676
01:11:53,770 --> 01:11:51,530
Lennon good mr. lemon that which they

1677
01:11:56,770 --> 01:11:53,780
did and when the results came back on on

1678
01:11:59,170 --> 01:11:56,780
a few occasions that they were amongst

1679
01:12:02,020 --> 01:11:59,180
the best results he had seen and almost

1680
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:02,030
certainly created by you know and this

1681
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:05,450
plasma they became even less happy so

1682
01:12:09,790 --> 01:12:07,850
they effectively did a blind a

1683
01:12:12,010 --> 01:12:09,800
double-blind which has really put me

1684
01:12:14,170 --> 01:12:12,020
personally in the deepest part of the

1685
01:12:16,150 --> 01:12:14,180
water because I felt the results that

1686
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:16,160
came back from that double-blind was

1687
01:12:20,140 --> 01:12:17,330
important for all

1688
01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:20,150
to know all of us to share because it

1689
01:12:25,810 --> 01:12:22,400
was at that time that we were hanging a

1690
01:12:28,710 --> 01:12:25,820
very major hat on the BLT

1691
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:28,720
hook that here was a definitive

1692
01:12:36,130 --> 01:12:32,810
scientific result they differentiated

1693
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:36,140
between the real and the man-made when

1694
01:12:40,900 --> 01:12:38,690
in fact the sandwich themselves and they

1695
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:40,910
let me in on some of these glowing

1696
01:12:46,930 --> 01:12:42,530
Testament they were carrying out I

1697
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:46,940
became a quiet bystander to blind

1698
01:12:51,250 --> 01:12:49,250
testing process that was going on and I

1699
01:12:53,260 --> 01:12:51,260
became a standard you know even when I

1700
01:12:56,050 --> 01:12:53,270
was filming farmers saying well that was

1701
01:12:58,300 --> 01:12:56,060
over there was caused by heavy rain we

1702
01:13:02,200 --> 01:12:58,310
had last night and the samples would be

1703
01:13:03,790 --> 01:13:02,210
sent and come back as a result I became

1704
01:13:08,050 --> 01:13:03,800
less and more and more a disillusioned

1705
01:13:09,730 --> 01:13:08,060
and I rightly or wrongly I mean it was

1706
01:13:12,010 --> 01:13:09,740
remember anything personal I actually

1707
01:13:13,900 --> 01:13:12,020
like and admire a man in science that

1708
01:13:15,940 --> 01:13:13,910
comes forward because I know what there

1709
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:15,950
is to be lost you know in subjects like

1710
01:13:20,860 --> 01:13:19,010
this but the result had to be stayed in

1711
01:13:23,290 --> 01:13:20,870
a nice state of it and that was the

1712
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:23,300
beginning or be very significant rift

1713
01:13:29,260 --> 01:13:26,810
between the Lemonwood blt camp and

1714
01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:29,270
myself personally but I've given that to

1715
01:13:33,670 --> 01:13:31,280
you as honestly as I can give it and

1716
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:33,680
maybe if you have you know Nancy back

1717
01:13:37,930 --> 01:13:35,690
with somebody at some future time you'll

1718
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:37,940
hear another side perhaps but that's the

1719
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:39,770
best I can give to you that I do

1720
01:13:46,150 --> 01:13:42,530
question whether we have a definitive

1721
01:13:49,450 --> 01:13:46,160
very important result on the plant

1722
01:13:51,900 --> 01:13:49,460
analysis I do not think we do that is my

1723
01:13:54,580 --> 01:13:51,910
view when you crush plants under feet

1724
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:54,590
plants react differently there's never

1725
01:13:59,800 --> 01:13:57,530
been reason to test and evaluate to this

1726
01:14:01,780 --> 01:13:59,810
level plants that have been crushed by

1727
01:14:04,510 --> 01:14:01,790
fee it just simply hasn't been done

1728
01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:04,520
until now and so I think we could be

1729
01:14:09,940 --> 01:14:07,280
looking at an important result that when

1730
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:09,950
a plant is stressed it's as I'm dying my

1731
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:12,410
species in trouble and it does things to

1732
01:14:17,950 --> 01:14:15,650
protect itself and to safeguard the

1733
01:14:20,740 --> 01:14:17,960
future generation in a heavy Drive

1734
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:20,750
apples will form in multitude and one

1735
01:14:25,330 --> 01:14:22,850
other fruit will too because it's saying

1736
01:14:27,610 --> 01:14:25,340
I'm in trouble we need to survive let's

1737
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:27,620
put out seeds as much as we can do for

1738
01:14:30,529 --> 01:14:29,810
the next year anyway that's why we owe

1739
01:14:31,699 --> 01:14:30,539
that you

1740
01:14:34,669 --> 01:14:31,709
that's a really interesting point

1741
01:14:36,139 --> 01:14:34,679
because I remember Nancy and Levengood

1742
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:36,149
scratching their heads when they were

1743
01:14:40,609 --> 01:14:38,489
told that they'd been hoaxes that the

1744
01:14:42,319 --> 01:14:40,619
kinds of results that they were finding

1745
01:14:44,299 --> 01:14:42,329
that they felt were legitimate hi

1746
01:14:45,649 --> 01:14:44,309
strange results were being found in hoax

1747
01:14:48,949 --> 01:14:45,659
circles so you bring up a really

1748
01:14:50,839 --> 01:14:48,959
interesting possible rationale for those

1749
01:14:53,779 --> 01:14:50,849
sort of physiological changes to be

1750
01:14:55,819 --> 01:14:53,789
observed and documented now this is the

1751
01:14:57,829 --> 01:14:55,829
para cast and we we kind of dig a little

1752
01:15:00,020 --> 01:14:57,839
bit here and I really do have to ask

1753
01:15:01,789 --> 01:15:00,030
this in that next question it's

1754
01:15:03,739 --> 01:15:01,799
partially comes from God's Makai one of

1755
01:15:07,039 --> 01:15:03,749
our administrators at forum dr. Perik

1756
01:15:10,779 --> 01:15:07,049
asked calm but the psychic Robert Vander

1757
01:15:14,689 --> 01:15:10,789
broke from Holland recently I know

1758
01:15:17,209 --> 01:15:14,699
fairly unbelievable channeling that he

1759
01:15:19,609 --> 01:15:17,219
did from the recently departed Pat oh

1760
01:15:22,369 --> 01:15:19,619
god who's a dear friend of yours with

1761
01:15:24,049 --> 01:15:22,379
some sort of message for you that really

1762
01:15:25,969 --> 01:15:24,059
kind of blew up into a tempest in a

1763
01:15:27,679 --> 01:15:25,979
teapot so why don't you give our

1764
01:15:30,379 --> 01:15:27,689
listeners just a real quick thumbnail

1765
01:15:33,799 --> 01:15:30,389
sketch of that where you come down yeah

1766
01:15:36,919 --> 01:15:33,809
and it will not be an expensive response

1767
01:15:38,899 --> 01:15:36,929
because here I have to show much more

1768
01:15:39,589 --> 01:15:38,909
respect than has been shown on the

1769
01:15:41,839 --> 01:15:39,599
Internet

1770
01:15:43,849 --> 01:15:41,849
or my deceased friends and it was more

1771
01:15:47,179 --> 01:15:43,859
than at pegado you know it was Paul

1772
01:15:51,079 --> 01:15:47,189
Viking it was David and you know even

1773
01:15:53,389 --> 01:15:51,089
Bauer so this is a a very kind of

1774
01:15:55,879 --> 01:15:53,399
serious situation because families and

1775
01:15:58,489 --> 01:15:55,889
their memories of their loved ones has

1776
01:16:01,129 --> 01:15:58,499
been affected by statements made

1777
01:16:05,089 --> 01:16:01,139
surrounding robert van monroe I have

1778
01:16:07,849 --> 01:16:05,099
spoken to robber I have to say that I am

1779
01:16:09,739 --> 01:16:07,859
not been able technically to resolve nor

1780
01:16:11,929 --> 01:16:09,749
does anybody else I don't think what's

1781
01:16:14,809 --> 01:16:11,939
happening around Robert but I don't wish

1782
01:16:18,169 --> 01:16:14,819
to get further involved in a quagmire of

1783
01:16:21,109 --> 01:16:18,179
many claims related to people who I

1784
01:16:23,989 --> 01:16:21,119
loved and respected and their families

1785
01:16:27,349 --> 01:16:23,999
too so that's where I come down it is a

1786
01:16:30,799 --> 01:16:27,359
very big subject in of itself and yes

1787
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:30,809
seem to be a mysterious one : Andrews

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1886
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[Music]

1896
01:20:59,479 --> 01:20:57,500
this is a skirt 7 the author you have on

1897
01:21:04,399 --> 01:20:59,489
the screen you're listening to the para

1898
01:21:07,100 --> 01:21:04,409
Cass I'll tell you what we had a big

1899
01:21:07,819 --> 01:21:07,110
dust-up with Nancy over this Robert Van

1900
01:21:10,129 --> 01:21:07,829
den Broeck

1901
01:21:13,069 --> 01:21:10,139
issue and not getting into any more of

1902
01:21:15,740 --> 01:21:13,079
it there's a large thread a couple I

1903
01:21:18,830 --> 01:21:15,750
think in our forms at for America's comm

1904
01:21:20,569 --> 01:21:18,840
the shows are in our archives reach your

1905
01:21:22,370 --> 01:21:20,579
own decisions Chris we've got many

1906
01:21:25,250 --> 01:21:22,380
thousands of questions to get through

1907
01:21:27,020 --> 01:21:25,260
let's try a few more boy we do I must

1908
01:21:29,390 --> 01:21:27,030
say Colin I've been doing the show for

1909
01:21:32,180 --> 01:21:29,400
over three years now and I've never seen

1910
01:21:34,129 --> 01:21:32,190
so many questions for a guest that we've

1911
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:34,139
had on the show and that's a testament

1912
01:21:36,770 --> 01:21:36,239
to people's interest in your very fine

1913
01:21:40,819 --> 01:21:36,780
work

1914
01:21:42,169 --> 01:21:40,829
add well God's Makai has another

1915
01:21:44,569 --> 01:21:42,179
question for you and this is one that I

1916
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:44,579
wanted to ask - you know you mentioned

1917
01:21:49,189 --> 01:21:46,530
there have been almost 2,500 crop

1918
01:21:51,589 --> 01:21:49,199
formations you've seen many of the

1919
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:51,599
famous ones Barbary Castle the Julia

1920
01:21:56,419 --> 01:21:54,210
said I could go on and on what was the

1921
01:21:59,089 --> 01:21:56,429
single most interesting crop circle you

1922
01:22:01,399 --> 01:21:59,099
ever investigated and why great question

1923
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:01,409
of the many I think a certainly a couple

1924
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:03,570
of thousand and most of them in southern

1925
01:22:07,819 --> 01:22:05,010
England that I've traveled the world to

1926
01:22:10,729 --> 01:22:07,829
see others you know in Japan and and the

1927
01:22:14,180 --> 01:22:10,739
outback of Australia etc etc this might

1928
01:22:17,149 --> 01:22:14,190
be a surprising reply answer to some of

1929
01:22:22,279 --> 01:22:17,159
the listeners the most intriguing was a

1930
01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:22,289
single circle in 1986 I believe that's

1931
01:22:26,930 --> 01:22:24,960
all it was it was a single circle in the

1932
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:26,940
landscape were well away from the beaten

1933
01:22:32,359 --> 01:22:29,489
ground and public access areas although

1934
01:22:34,310 --> 01:22:32,369
it was you know a farmer's field not

1935
01:22:37,010 --> 01:22:34,320
anything that most people would see and

1936
01:22:39,819 --> 01:22:37,020
this circle was different because from

1937
01:22:42,950 --> 01:22:39,829
the air it had what was a very clear

1938
01:22:45,529 --> 01:22:42,960
spiral but it was what we've seen in all

1939
01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:45,539
circles before and everyone since is

1940
01:22:49,149 --> 01:22:47,280
that you can tell the direction of the

1941
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:49,159
spiral clockwise or counterclockwise

1942
01:22:55,569 --> 01:22:52,650
from the air by is patterning but here

1943
01:22:59,810 --> 01:22:55,579
we had one it appeared to be a clockwise

1944
01:23:01,970 --> 01:22:59,820
spiraling arm the arc of the the spiral

1945
01:23:02,990 --> 01:23:01,980
was clockwise from the air and yet at

1946
01:23:04,460 --> 01:23:03,000
ground level

1947
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:04,470
the plants were coming from the

1948
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:07,890
perimeter into the center on that that

1949
01:23:16,490 --> 01:23:12,210
arc it had also along each of those

1950
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:16,500
veins that form that spiral into woven

1951
01:23:22,370 --> 01:23:20,490
sinuous Idol sign-waving platting of the

1952
01:23:24,860 --> 01:23:22,380
plants as the best I can describe it

1953
01:23:27,980 --> 01:23:24,870
over over the radio like this

1954
01:23:29,630 --> 01:23:27,990
it was absolutely extraordinary I spent

1955
01:23:32,090 --> 01:23:29,640
a lot of time there with the firemen are

1956
01:23:34,250 --> 01:23:32,100
joined by dr. Terrence meeting head of

1957
01:23:37,580 --> 01:23:34,260
21 storm surge of organization in

1958
01:23:39,650 --> 01:23:37,590
Britain and we spent together a lot of

1959
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:39,660
time looking at that that was one

1960
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:42,090
pattern that has today a pattern of

1961
01:23:48,350 --> 01:23:45,690
plant flattening that has today and then

1962
01:23:51,310 --> 01:23:48,360
amongst all of them in its simplest form

1963
01:23:54,140 --> 01:23:51,320
but I think to this day it's even

1964
01:23:57,530 --> 01:23:54,150
conceivable I think that that was much

1965
01:24:00,200 --> 01:23:57,540
more UFO energy field related than crop

1966
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:00,210
circle in the true crop circle sense it

1967
01:24:06,830 --> 01:24:03,810
was interesting and also I think it's an

1968
01:24:09,590 --> 01:24:06,840
interesting exercise to look at the

1969
01:24:12,950 --> 01:24:09,600
patterning of complexity and how those

1970
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:12,960
original circles in the 70s may have

1971
01:24:18,710 --> 01:24:15,570
been Doug and Dave or whomever but we

1972
01:24:21,410 --> 01:24:18,720
see at cheese foot had in 86 the first

1973
01:24:24,890 --> 01:24:21,420
real pattern of complexity which was a

1974
01:24:27,050 --> 01:24:24,900
ring around a simple circle that really

1975
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:27,060
to me indicated the first real amount of

1976
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:29,610
complexity and I'm holding a book here

1977
01:24:34,220 --> 01:24:31,530
by Michael Glickman called corn circles

1978
01:24:36,140 --> 01:24:34,230
which does exactly that it leads the

1979
01:24:38,180 --> 01:24:36,150
reader through the actual patterning of

1980
01:24:40,190 --> 01:24:38,190
complexity in the first ten years of the

1981
01:24:41,540 --> 01:24:40,200
crop circle phenomenon this book was

1982
01:24:43,130 --> 01:24:41,550
given to me by Laurance Rockefeller

1983
01:24:45,980 --> 01:24:43,140
actually and I treasure this book

1984
01:24:48,500 --> 01:24:45,990
because of its simplicity and and how

1985
01:24:51,140 --> 01:24:48,510
you can really get a visual sense of how

1986
01:24:53,870 --> 01:24:51,150
these formations have become more and

1987
01:24:56,420 --> 01:24:53,880
more complex over the years and one

1988
01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:56,430
thing I must point out is 1986 is when

1989
01:25:02,810 --> 01:24:58,800
mad cow disease broke out in the cattle

1990
01:25:04,460 --> 01:25:02,820
herds in southern England so I think

1991
01:25:06,860 --> 01:25:04,470
that there's a correlation there that I

1992
01:25:08,930 --> 01:25:06,870
talked to you about back in 99 I think

1993
01:25:11,660 --> 01:25:08,940
it kind of freaked you out of that we

1994
01:25:13,190 --> 01:25:11,670
have an interesting correlation of crop

1995
01:25:15,380 --> 01:25:13,200
circles emerging and becoming more

1996
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:15,390
complex as mad cow disease is

1997
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:18,210
slowly spreading around England yes and

1998
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:21,210
it was also to answer that that mix that

1999
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:24,210
rather intriguing mix who was also the

2000
01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:27,330
year when Pat busty tailor be like

2001
01:25:31,250 --> 01:25:29,280
aircraft pilot still involved today

2002
01:25:33,890 --> 01:25:31,260
incidentally it's only a knife from the

2003
01:25:36,470 --> 01:25:33,900
original scene that's still involved but

2004
01:25:38,060 --> 01:25:36,480
we stood in a field next to one of those

2005
01:25:42,140 --> 01:25:38,070
circles you're referring to with a

2006
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:42,150
single ring and nearby to our right was

2007
01:25:46,550 --> 01:25:43,890
the next development that appeared a few

2008
01:25:49,070 --> 01:25:46,560
days later a circle with two rings and

2009
01:25:52,430 --> 01:25:49,080
we observed that as we had done in

2010
01:25:55,370 --> 01:25:52,440
previous visits in that area that where

2011
01:25:57,530 --> 01:25:55,380
you had a circle with a single and then

2012
01:25:58,910 --> 01:25:57,540
a double ring that they were in balance

2013
01:26:00,950 --> 01:25:58,920
in other words the flow would be

2014
01:26:03,740 --> 01:26:00,960
clockwise in one and came through in the

2015
01:26:07,220 --> 01:26:03,750
other that we were looking at an end not

2016
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:07,230
an entity but a 2d representation of

2017
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:09,810
something in equilibrium something in

2018
01:26:15,380 --> 01:26:12,330
balance we made that comment you know to

2019
01:26:17,330 --> 01:26:15,390
one another to find the very next day

2020
01:26:19,430 --> 01:26:17,340
and this is again it's in the book

2021
01:26:21,470 --> 01:26:19,440
because it runs a thread that runs

2022
01:26:23,570 --> 01:26:21,480
through a lot of this it was as if

2023
01:26:26,930 --> 01:26:23,580
something was like a parrot on your

2024
01:26:28,070 --> 01:26:26,940
shoulder listening and observing knowing

2025
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:28,080
where you're going with your thought

2026
01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:31,530
process and the next one to appear

2027
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:34,800
showed us that there wasn't that level

2028
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:36,930
of consistency and that the law of

2029
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:40,170
physics that we were looking at it did

2030
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:44,400
not comply or need not apply to this

2031
01:26:48,290 --> 01:26:46,290
subject because the next one appeared

2032
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:48,300
was three and they were all in the same

2033
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:50,850
direction this is kind of a game that

2034
01:26:57,020 --> 01:26:54,330
seems to have developed you know in the

2035
01:26:58,970 --> 01:26:57,030
subject so you know there are so many

2036
01:27:01,400 --> 01:26:58,980
pieces to this you know you really do

2037
01:27:05,690 --> 01:27:01,410
have to kind of step back slow it down

2038
01:27:07,490 --> 01:27:05,700
because you the pieces are many it's

2039
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:07,500
like there's the patterning that you've

2040
01:27:11,300 --> 01:27:08,850
referred to in the book Michael

2041
01:27:13,580 --> 01:27:11,310
Clayton's book and on the other books

2042
01:27:15,710 --> 01:27:13,590
too there's the patterning can you make

2043
01:27:18,500 --> 01:27:15,720
out a message where's your falling from

2044
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:18,510
A to Z what does it mean well in that

2045
01:27:23,510 --> 01:27:21,090
question you also have to have which

2046
01:27:23,930 --> 01:27:23,520
ones are showing us which are the real

2047
01:27:25,940 --> 01:27:23,940
ones

2048
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:25,950
which of those that we can prove are not

2049
01:27:29,330 --> 01:27:28,050
no man-made we're the ones that are

2050
01:27:31,870 --> 01:27:29,340
man-made is that

2051
01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:31,880
prick Ruth pepper take you to the same

2052
01:27:36,589 --> 01:27:35,040
conclusion good point out on and on and

2053
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:36,599
on you know there's a lot of a lot of

2054
01:27:42,109 --> 01:27:38,489
this and where does the science come in

2055
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:42,119
to it at the same time I broke away I'll

2056
01:27:48,770 --> 01:27:44,730
terminate on this I broke broke away my

2057
01:27:50,839 --> 01:27:48,780
own specific focus of research in 2000

2058
01:27:53,660 --> 01:27:50,849
the year that we actually spoke on the

2059
01:27:55,669 --> 01:27:53,670
phone and felt that I was obliged to do

2060
01:27:58,129 --> 01:27:55,679
it and break away into the into the

2061
01:28:00,379 --> 01:27:58,139
study of consciousness because that did

2062
01:28:02,870 --> 01:28:00,389
seem to me to be the correlation between

2063
01:28:05,330 --> 01:28:02,880
the man-made and that we couldn't

2064
01:28:08,839 --> 01:28:05,340
decipher because there was a consistency

2065
01:28:12,290 --> 01:28:08,849
in the information that was being

2066
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:12,300
communicated and so consciousness that

2067
01:28:19,129 --> 01:28:15,210
appears to be the guiding force here is

2068
01:28:21,229 --> 01:28:19,139
where I kind of then placed my focus

2069
01:28:23,750 --> 01:28:21,239
well that leads me to another question

2070
01:28:26,419 --> 01:28:23,760
from one of our listeners at forum dr.

2071
01:28:26,959 --> 01:28:26,429
Peric ascom one of our posters son of a

2072
01:28:29,839 --> 01:28:26,969
stunk

2073
01:28:31,790 --> 01:28:29,849
he asks crop circle designs are often

2074
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:31,800
referred to as having very complex

2075
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:34,050
mathematical properties has there ever

2076
01:28:38,540 --> 01:28:36,210
been an attempt to place all of these

2077
01:28:41,149 --> 01:28:38,550
properties into a computer put these

2078
01:28:43,070 --> 01:28:41,159
formations into a computer and see what

2079
01:28:44,780 --> 01:28:43,080
comes out I don't know exactly how you

2080
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:44,790
would do that because there are

2081
01:28:48,229 --> 01:28:47,010
different family types and that I'm sure

2082
01:28:50,419 --> 01:28:48,239
there will be somebody who will come

2083
01:28:52,430 --> 01:28:50,429
forward and show me how and you know

2084
01:28:54,500 --> 01:28:52,440
that's great but I don't know how that

2085
01:28:56,899 --> 01:28:54,510
would be done because you know you look

2086
01:28:59,660 --> 01:28:56,909
at the designs and you see by evaluating

2087
01:29:01,250 --> 01:28:59,670
what it is we think we know about them

2088
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:01,260
so we have no idea what they are they're

2089
01:29:05,780 --> 01:29:03,810
simply patterns like somebody throwing

2090
01:29:08,030 --> 01:29:05,790
the paint off of your paintbrush and

2091
01:29:10,820 --> 01:29:08,040
just randomly thrown around the the

2092
01:29:13,220 --> 01:29:10,830
paper I mean there's just no regime no

2093
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:13,230
construct that you could work with but

2094
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:16,650
others do create family types you know

2095
01:29:21,290 --> 01:29:18,810
as you were saying there you know some

2096
01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:21,300
some are nature's mathematics

2097
01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:24,000
some are fractal designs the Julia set

2098
01:29:28,939 --> 01:29:26,639
and these other hands of fractal and

2099
01:29:30,410 --> 01:29:28,949
chaos theory you know others are

2100
01:29:34,609 --> 01:29:30,420
astronomical units

2101
01:29:37,310 --> 01:29:34,619
others are animals DNA electromagnetic

2102
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:37,320
components of one sort or another and so

2103
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:39,330
you could only I think write those down

2104
01:29:43,430 --> 01:29:42,090
and to feed family types forward and

2105
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:43,440
perhaps suggest an outcome

2106
01:29:48,020 --> 01:29:45,330
a computer but I don't know how you

2107
01:29:51,380 --> 01:29:48,030
would input all of them into one

2108
01:29:53,450 --> 01:29:51,390
cohesive program to know what they are

2109
01:29:55,370 --> 01:29:53,460
spelling out so you would have to break

2110
01:29:57,709 --> 01:29:55,380
them down into their type basically

2111
01:30:00,320 --> 01:29:57,719
inside yeah I think so and break them

2112
01:30:03,830 --> 01:30:00,330
down into mathematical ratios that I

2113
01:30:06,229 --> 01:30:03,840
think it is a valid suggestion this was

2114
01:30:09,020 --> 01:30:06,239
something the starting point for that

2115
01:30:11,420 --> 01:30:09,030
has probably already happened and that

2116
01:30:14,300 --> 01:30:11,430
was when Professor Gerald Hawkins down

2117
01:30:16,670 --> 01:30:14,310
in Washington DC head of astronomy at

2118
01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:16,680
University Boston he and I were working

2119
01:30:21,229 --> 01:30:19,199
together but back in the early eighties

2120
01:30:24,020 --> 01:30:21,239
we'll have the rest of that answer on

2121
01:30:26,660 --> 01:30:24,030
the other side the book is on the edge

2122
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:26,670
of reality from : Andrews and Cynthia

2123
01:30:30,980 --> 01:30:28,650
Andrews you're on with gene and Chris in

2124
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:30,990
the pair of cast

2125
01:30:44,370 --> 01:30:41,250
are you tired of searching for great

2126
01:30:48,690 --> 01:30:44,380
talk-radio more important search through

2127
01:30:51,060 --> 01:30:48,700
yo world we are the GCM radio network

2128
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:51,070
first game attack of the Rockets and it

2129
01:30:54,930 --> 01:30:52,810
was a critically acclaimed success and

2130
01:30:57,300 --> 01:30:54,940
now there's the coming of the protectors

2131
01:30:59,580 --> 01:30:57,310
a former military intelligence man is

2132
01:31:01,410 --> 01:30:59,590
contacted by a space woman in a dream a

2133
01:31:03,810 --> 01:31:01,420
dream that turns out to be a nightmare

2134
01:31:05,850 --> 01:31:03,820
because evil forces on our distant

2135
01:31:08,190 --> 01:31:05,860
planet are planning to conquer the earth

2136
01:31:10,650 --> 01:31:08,200
this is gripping science fiction of the

2137
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:10,660
classic kind attack of the rock codes

2138
01:31:15,330 --> 01:31:12,730
and the coming of the protectors find

2139
01:31:19,470 --> 01:31:15,340
out more and Rocco is calm that's rock

2140
01:31:21,210 --> 01:31:19,480
oi sorrow CK oids calm so here's what

2141
01:31:24,150 --> 01:31:21,220
happened I was placing an order online

2142
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we don't want to forget the rest of the

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continue please well professor Gerald

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Hawkins and in Washington DC had of a

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stronger University Austin he looked at

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the circles we had he felt a good

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those that we had recorded pre

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got an aide to a lot of people and in

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that book we I think off the top of my

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head I haven't got it in front of me

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there was something like 18 designs that

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we spoke about we reported on people's

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experiences UFO experiences many of them

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this is the important piece we gave

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dimensions accurate dimensions and

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placements in southern England he went

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to work on that and what he found was

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that more than three-quarters of them I

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believe it was a 11 out of 18 came up

2260
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with consistent ratios that is if you

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square the circle in the case I think

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Chris was making a circle with a ring

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circle the two rings well square the

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circle then square the first ring is

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square of a second and the ratios that

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exists between those three elements

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squared and compare them to other

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designs in circular evidence the very

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first book written on the subject you he

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find because there was a consistency of

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diatonic ratios these are the same

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ratios in the musical scale these are

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the blank notes on the piano in the

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Western musical system so that if you

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have C as I think two nine seven Hertz

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an audible frequency and you press the

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adjacent notes to it the ratio that

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exists between those same frequencies is

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the same that existed one element to

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another in the crop circles in southern

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England between 1981 when the first

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machine got involved in measure done

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through to the publication surf their

2284
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evidence in 1989 so there is a

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mathematical

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starting point for their very intriguing

2287
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question that was asked I think on your

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blog site and just to say in conclusion

2289
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it was that result professor Hawkins

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resolved that fascinated Queen Elizabeth

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the scientific adviser at the time also

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scientific adviser to the Prime Minister

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Margaret Thatcher during the time that I

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was sending reports to them because his

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comment was to us personally that if

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this is so and this applies globally

2297
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then we have an international conspiracy

2298
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and that simply is not feasible and he

2299
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stood right back in 1989 well well that

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kind of leads me to my next question

2301
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from psychedelic alchemist and as a

2302
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little aside before I mention this I

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happened to be on the phone I spoke with

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Lawrence Rockefellers right-hand man

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Henry diamond who replaced George lamb

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back in I think it was 98

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he had just was getting himself up to

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speed and Lawrence's affairs and he

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asked me kind of out of exasperation

2310
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:25,300
almost he says why is Lawrence so

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interested in crop circles doesn't he

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01:38:31,170 --> 01:38:29,470
realize that it's probably British

2313
01:38:33,690 --> 01:38:31,180
intelligence doing these things from

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space but you and I both know that Chris

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and I was like ooh I thought it was a

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very interesting aside coming from

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something so highly placed but that

2318
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leads me for the question by psychedelic

2319
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alchemists our governments around the

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world purposely trying to cover up the

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crop circle phenomenon or or any

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government agents behind these designs

2323
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and if so what what could their purpose

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be well that is a very big question I

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could go into a thousand thousand

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directions with this one well pretty

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good good listeners out there very good

2328
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very intelligent questions very probing

2329
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I would say first that it is not my

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belief that any government and British

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included are responsible for

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constructing crops arose not from

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airborne technology the reason that I

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say that

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is that airborne technology capable of

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this kind of manipulation of plants and

2337
01:39:44,790 --> 01:39:41,110
we're looking at microwave here low

2338
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levels microwave beamed from above have

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to have a forward momentum of velocity a

2340
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forward momentum to actually not only of

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course soften plants and to influence

2342
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their stability but to actually place

2343
01:40:00,120 --> 01:39:57,730
them into a design that this is capable

2344
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:00,130
of it to some degree in a microwave oven

2345
01:40:05,450 --> 01:40:02,650
traditional microwave oven but you kill

2346
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the plant they're heated they die and

2347
01:40:12,810 --> 01:40:09,040
also I've spoken first hand to witnesses

2348
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:12,820
in the farming community landowners in

2349
01:40:18,090 --> 01:40:15,250
and around military facilities and way

2350
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of way outside of those facilities who

2351
01:40:22,580 --> 01:40:20,560
had these things in forties actually one

2352
01:40:25,500 --> 01:40:22,590
in nineteen twenty three twenty four

2353
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hard evidence at nineteen forty-six

2354
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forty-seven we don't know of the

2355
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technology of capable of doing this even

2356
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by the military at that time and so and

2357
01:40:38,820 --> 01:40:36,820
and you know they have plenty of grounds

2358
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:38,830
where they can experiment with these

2359
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kind of things without putting them you

2360
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know right alongside major highways and

2361
01:40:48,420 --> 01:40:45,640
things like that I don't actually think

2362
01:40:51,410 --> 01:40:48,430
they're involved in this at all but they

2363
01:40:54,090 --> 01:40:51,420
most certainly are involved in

2364
01:40:56,430 --> 01:40:54,100
infiltrating the crop circle for turns

2365
01:40:58,530 --> 01:40:56,440
II at the are the UFO concern see and

2366
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other subjects that they know something

2367
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:00,670
about but not everything about idea and

2368
01:41:05,460 --> 01:41:03,370
that's another whole program I've always

2369
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said when it comes to UFOs and some you

2370
01:41:09,420 --> 01:41:07,300
know paranormal esque phenomena which

2371
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:09,430
you could classify crop circles as the

2372
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more you know the more can ease you are

2373
01:41:14,190 --> 01:41:12,910
the government's definitely know more

2374
01:41:16,620 --> 01:41:14,200
than we do that's why they're that much

2375
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more confused I'm pretty convinced of

2376
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:19,780
that oh yeah I quite agree I quite agree

2377
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:21,850
I mean I recently had I don't going to

2378
01:41:27,510 --> 01:41:24,610
be time to go into detail but I had a in

2379
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:27,520
the last three years had visitors to

2380
01:41:33,030 --> 01:41:29,650
this hive see where I'm talking to now

2381
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near New Haven in Connecticut a TV crew

2382
01:41:36,630 --> 01:41:34,690
that who were different to any TV crew I

2383
01:41:39,180 --> 01:41:36,640
have ever agreed to met to do an

2384
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interview with high-tech talking over

2385
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their systems to people in other control

2386
01:41:45,430 --> 01:41:43,100
facilities somewhere

2387
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:45,440
asking me questions that Pony sounded

2388
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:47,210
different they were being set up in

2389
01:41:52,420 --> 01:41:49,970
certain ways I took photographs of the

2390
01:41:55,050 --> 01:41:52,430
vehicle and the people concerned had

2391
01:41:57,370 --> 01:41:55,060
surprised them and I had a very

2392
01:41:59,770 --> 01:41:57,380
unexpected and strange response they

2393
01:42:02,140 --> 01:41:59,780
were angry they asked me what I was

2394
01:42:03,940 --> 01:42:02,150
doing and yet here they were in my home

2395
01:42:06,220 --> 01:42:03,950
you know

2396
01:42:06,790 --> 01:42:06,230
and anyway once I really turnabout's

2397
01:42:09,700 --> 01:42:06,800
Fair Play

2398
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:09,710
come on guys well absolutely right I

2399
01:42:13,180 --> 01:42:11,330
mean the outcome of that was that I

2400
01:42:15,430 --> 01:42:13,190
still have thankfully a few good

2401
01:42:19,480 --> 01:42:15,440
contacts on the inside of some of these

2402
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:19,490
authorities the FBI and so on and my

2403
01:42:25,270 --> 01:42:21,290
information was this was an asset

2404
01:42:28,780 --> 01:42:25,280
building operation by United States

2405
01:42:30,910 --> 01:42:28,790
intelligence and for the future again

2406
01:42:32,950 --> 01:42:30,920
we're looking at future time here it's

2407
01:42:35,770 --> 01:42:32,960
worse it's gonna run what does this guy

2408
01:42:38,020 --> 01:42:35,780
know how can we take him out or how can

2409
01:42:40,150 --> 01:42:38,030
we use them and that's what they were

2410
01:42:42,430 --> 01:42:40,160
doing that's my information and I

2411
01:42:44,950 --> 01:42:42,440
believe it you know anywhere else as

2412
01:42:46,540 --> 01:42:44,960
much as really I think to say about that

2413
01:42:49,180 --> 01:42:46,550
the government's are involved with all

2414
01:42:52,420 --> 01:42:49,190
of this they are in and around the UFO

2415
01:42:55,330 --> 01:42:52,430
and other subjects too because the

2416
01:42:59,470 --> 01:42:55,340
bottom line is where the research is not

2417
01:43:01,630 --> 01:42:59,480
focused is in humanity itself it's

2418
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:01,640
inside our minds it's inside the program

2419
01:43:08,260 --> 01:43:04,370
that runs us when a Pope says he's

2420
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:08,270
resigned because God told him to when a

2421
01:43:15,730 --> 01:43:12,290
president goes to a fake war that he has

2422
01:43:17,950 --> 01:43:15,740
produced because he was told to when a

2423
01:43:20,710 --> 01:43:17,960
guy goes and makes a crop circle because

2424
01:43:22,870 --> 01:43:20,720
he was told to or leaves his home in

2425
01:43:25,660 --> 01:43:22,880
Switzerland look on the UFO over his

2426
01:43:29,170 --> 01:43:25,670
head these are all things that have a

2427
01:43:31,090 --> 01:43:29,180
very striking similarity to them and you

2428
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:31,100
know we're back to kind of in that realm

2429
01:43:36,850 --> 01:43:34,130
of consciousness which has no adequate

2430
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:36,860
definition you know consciousness is

2431
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:38,210
because it says in the book

2432
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:40,810
and please stop me if this is too wrong

2433
01:43:45,550 --> 01:43:43,850
it's just like 30 seconds is can I

2434
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:45,560
finish my bags yeah yeah no definitely

2435
01:43:49,630 --> 01:43:47,210
go ahead will you leave me this is a

2436
01:43:51,940 --> 01:43:49,640
great great stuff well thank you but I

2437
01:43:54,130 --> 01:43:51,950
mean you know it this is where I think

2438
01:43:55,060 --> 01:43:54,140
it is the original attack the adequate

2439
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:55,070
definition for it

2440
01:43:59,830 --> 01:43:57,050
you know the consciousness is the

2441
01:44:01,630 --> 01:43:59,840
of awareness it is the substance of form

2442
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:01,640
and the force through which we

2443
01:44:07,990 --> 01:44:05,210
experience life it is personal and it is

2444
01:44:10,930 --> 01:44:08,000
collected it directs us it is carried on

2445
01:44:13,270 --> 01:44:10,940
energy and yet it is not energy it is

2446
01:44:16,750 --> 01:44:13,280
something beyond when we extend our

2447
01:44:19,210 --> 01:44:16,760
awareness and intent to use the force of

2448
01:44:22,420 --> 01:44:19,220
our consciousness we can manifest a

2449
01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:22,430
change in our surroundings we have to

2450
01:44:26,020 --> 01:44:24,110
make our minds up this is what I believe

2451
01:44:28,570 --> 01:44:26,030
this is where I think we are on this

2452
01:44:31,510 --> 01:44:28,580
crossroads in all subjects right now

2453
01:44:34,870 --> 01:44:31,520
right this day we have to make our minds

2454
01:44:37,270 --> 01:44:34,880
up who we want to be before we can fully

2455
01:44:40,060 --> 01:44:37,280
take advantage of the power which is

2456
01:44:44,440 --> 01:44:40,070
available to each of us and that comes

2457
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:44,450
down to truth and integrity but just the

2458
01:44:49,450 --> 01:44:46,370
very things were struggling to obtain

2459
01:44:52,150 --> 01:44:49,460
from those in leadership that's the

2460
01:44:55,510 --> 01:44:52,160
crossroads on which we are and why it is

2461
01:44:58,660 --> 01:44:55,520
important that we just we speak who we

2462
01:45:00,790 --> 01:44:58,670
are that we we act out what we believe

2463
01:45:03,490 --> 01:45:00,800
that we step forward and make a

2464
01:45:05,980 --> 01:45:03,500
difference being led this is no time to

2465
01:45:08,110 --> 01:45:05,990
be led this is the time to lead our

2466
01:45:09,970 --> 01:45:08,120
leaders that's what I believe

2467
01:45:12,460 --> 01:45:09,980
besides we're at a time now where we

2468
01:45:16,030 --> 01:45:12,470
don't even believe our leaders anymore

2469
01:45:18,550 --> 01:45:16,040
oh and joins us the book news on the

2470
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2489
01:46:11,179 --> 01:46:09,899
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2490
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2518
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2519
01:48:05,060 --> 01:48:03,030
here's Jane Steinberg we have so many

2520
01:48:07,070 --> 01:48:05,070
questions I've never seen so many

2521
01:48:09,740 --> 01:48:07,080
questions asked of a single guest as

2522
01:48:12,050 --> 01:48:09,750
crop-circle research pioneer Cohen

2523
01:48:15,440 --> 01:48:12,060
Andrews the book is on the edge of

2524
01:48:17,480 --> 01:48:15,450
reality and we're going over the edge I

2525
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:17,490
think at times you try to figure out

2526
01:48:21,620 --> 01:48:19,530
what's going on Chris what's our next

2527
01:48:23,390 --> 01:48:21,630
question yeah I think it's a very apt

2528
01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:23,400
title calling really it's very

2529
01:48:27,860 --> 01:48:25,920
appropriate here's a question from OS

2530
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:27,870
prime which is a good one it's one that

2531
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:29,610
I've often thought about and you're the

2532
01:48:34,130 --> 01:48:32,130
perfect person to bounce this off of my

2533
01:48:36,440 --> 01:48:34,140
question for miss Andrews has there ever

2534
01:48:38,900 --> 01:48:36,450
been any direct correlation or

2535
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:38,910
connection found from the actual designs

2536
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:41,730
themselves to say ancient texts or

2537
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:43,770
manuscript lettering like in biblical

2538
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:46,170
manuscript or he uses the example of the

2539
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:48,690
the Voynich manuscript do we have any

2540
01:48:54,980 --> 01:48:52,650
sort of tie-in to ancient glyph forms or

2541
01:48:59,090 --> 01:48:54,990
writing forms there would be people who

2542
01:49:01,190 --> 01:48:59,100
would claim that that is so I guess I

2543
01:49:03,710 --> 01:49:01,200
don't hold too many of them in my head

2544
01:49:05,930 --> 01:49:03,720
because I've lacked a little confidence

2545
01:49:09,470 --> 01:49:05,940
in them but what I would say and this is

2546
01:49:11,570 --> 01:49:09,480
not dodging question there have been a

2547
01:49:14,660 --> 01:49:11,580
range of designs that have suggested

2548
01:49:17,330 --> 01:49:14,670
that we were coming to kind of a a

2549
01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:17,340
period of chaos you know suggested in

2550
01:49:24,230 --> 01:49:20,490
chaos theory and in those fractals that

2551
01:49:28,190 --> 01:49:24,240
we have seen that did intrigue me enough

2552
01:49:31,070 --> 01:49:28,200
to conduct a more than six-month

2553
01:49:33,590 --> 01:49:31,080
investigation which led to writing

2554
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:33,600
incidentally The Complete Idiot's Guide

2555
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:37,170
series of books on 2012 which I wrote

2556
01:49:44,270 --> 01:49:40,290
with my wife Cynthia and that was based

2557
01:49:47,090 --> 01:49:44,280
upon a prophecy and based upon not a

2558
01:49:49,210 --> 01:49:47,100
language but based upon you know what

2559
01:49:52,250 --> 01:49:49,220
was being suggested in the fields and I

2560
01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:52,260
at which I incidentally do have to say

2561
01:49:58,490 --> 01:49:54,690
I'm seeking my own opportunity here is

2562
01:49:59,299 --> 01:49:58,500
that when the Hollywood and the media in

2563
01:50:02,239 --> 01:49:59,309
general

2564
01:50:02,959 --> 01:50:02,249
created the myth the self-made myth of

2565
01:50:04,790 --> 01:50:02,969
their very own

2566
01:50:06,829 --> 01:50:04,800
it wasn't anything to do with the Mayan

2567
01:50:09,349 --> 01:50:06,839
people which I think was extremely

2568
01:50:11,119 --> 01:50:09,359
disrespectful of them they put out the

2569
01:50:13,369 --> 01:50:11,129
method this was it was claimed to be the

2570
01:50:15,679 --> 01:50:13,379
end of the world was which the minds and

2571
01:50:18,049 --> 01:50:15,689
themselves never said nor did any

2572
01:50:21,139 --> 01:50:18,059
leading researcher I ever spoke to say

2573
01:50:22,729 --> 01:50:21,149
this was Hollywood and the media what

2574
01:50:25,129 --> 01:50:22,739
actually happened that has not been

2575
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:25,139
given enough credit or discussion his

2576
01:50:32,359 --> 01:50:29,010
2012 happened and is still happening not

2577
01:50:34,879 --> 01:50:32,369
tied to the date 21 to 7 2012 the end of

2578
01:50:37,939 --> 01:50:34,889
a twenty five thousand year cycle where

2579
01:50:40,399 --> 01:50:37,949
we had economic collapse where you have

2580
01:50:42,919 --> 01:50:40,409
seven billion people unsustainable food

2581
01:50:44,509 --> 01:50:42,929
supply systems when you look at global

2582
01:50:46,819 --> 01:50:44,519
warming and climate change and we now

2583
01:50:49,129 --> 01:50:46,829
have a direction with science is

2584
01:50:51,559 --> 01:50:49,139
confidently taking with it even giving

2585
01:50:54,709 --> 01:50:51,569
us a date certification of life on earth

2586
01:50:58,459 --> 01:50:54,719
if these things are not important you

2587
01:51:01,279 --> 01:50:58,469
know it's in the cyclical sense then

2588
01:51:04,609 --> 01:51:01,289
they simply didn't see what 2012 was

2589
01:51:07,819 --> 01:51:04,619
saying so anyway that I had heading on

2590
01:51:10,869 --> 01:51:07,829
with that so III was going somewhere

2591
01:51:13,069 --> 01:51:10,879
office I've no forgotten but so very

2592
01:51:15,619 --> 01:51:13,079
remember talking about any sort of

2593
01:51:19,069 --> 01:51:15,629
tie-in with ancient script manuscript

2594
01:51:22,129 --> 01:51:19,079
glyphs any sort of conscious or

2595
01:51:24,979 --> 01:51:22,139
otherwise connection to the ancient past

2596
01:51:27,889 --> 01:51:24,989
we didn't have you have some tantalizing

2597
01:51:29,809 --> 01:51:27,899
evidence that these formations are not a

2598
01:51:31,549 --> 01:51:29,819
new phenomenon that back in the

2599
01:51:34,429 --> 01:51:31,559
fifteenth and sixteenth century we have

2600
01:51:36,759 --> 01:51:34,439
mentions a pretty famous woodcut of a

2601
01:51:40,369 --> 01:51:36,769
devil the mowing devil

2602
01:51:42,409 --> 01:51:40,379
how about ancient formations that say in

2603
01:51:43,879 --> 01:51:42,419
the Middle Ages how far back can we

2604
01:51:46,969 --> 01:51:43,889
document this phenomenon

2605
01:51:49,849 --> 01:51:46,979
well 1678 with some confidence because

2606
01:51:52,429 --> 01:51:49,859
you know it is an etched wood carving

2607
01:51:54,739 --> 01:51:52,439
which exists today and you know which

2608
01:51:57,049 --> 01:51:54,749
has a writing that goes with it it comes

2609
01:52:01,129 --> 01:51:57,059
from the you know from ancient in

2610
01:52:03,559 --> 01:52:01,139
English folklore 1678 where the mailing

2611
01:52:05,659 --> 01:52:03,569
gavel as you rightly said given that

2612
01:52:07,219 --> 01:52:05,669
name because the farmer relates to an

2613
01:52:09,529 --> 01:52:07,229
orange ball of light coming down from

2614
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:09,539
the sky a fiery red ball of light from

2615
01:52:15,090 --> 01:52:12,370
the sky and etching

2616
01:52:18,390 --> 01:52:15,100
as he described it hence its term a

2617
01:52:20,700 --> 01:52:18,400
circle into his own field well that

2618
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:20,710
really isn't very different at all to

2619
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:24,370
what happened in 1976 when Joyce olds

2620
01:52:30,270 --> 01:52:27,730
and her boyfriend Ted Pratt also

2621
01:52:32,610 --> 01:52:30,280
experienced an orange ball of light in

2622
01:52:34,710 --> 01:52:32,620
the field where as I was saying to start

2623
01:52:37,140 --> 01:52:34,720
this clean sheet of paper which became

2624
01:52:39,810 --> 01:52:37,150
the crop circle subject they had an

2625
01:52:43,500 --> 01:52:39,820
abduction situation which I won't repeat

2626
01:52:46,290 --> 01:52:43,510
it's very very very similar situation it

2627
01:52:47,670 --> 01:52:46,300
played out well you know we did have a

2628
01:52:49,830 --> 01:52:47,680
design I think I should just mention

2629
01:52:52,590 --> 01:52:49,840
this because we're looking at you know

2630
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:52,600
clear kind of information on in some of

2631
01:52:57,750 --> 01:52:55,210
these designs where we could close to

2632
01:53:00,150 --> 01:52:57,760
the radio telescope at Chilbolton which

2633
01:53:02,550 --> 01:53:00,160
was very close to my old home before I

2634
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:02,560
moved to the United States you know my

2635
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:07,690
second marriage in 1990 was the you know

2636
01:53:13,020 --> 01:53:10,690
very striking design which was

2637
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:13,030
interpreted as a response to the Paris

2638
01:53:20,700 --> 01:53:17,170
Ipoh data that was sent out you know

2639
01:53:24,090 --> 01:53:20,710
from by NASA and that those operating

2640
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:24,100
the system in computer language again I

2641
01:53:27,540 --> 01:53:26,170
don't have the detail of any way in

2642
01:53:30,270 --> 01:53:27,550
front of me I don't have the computers

2643
01:53:33,210 --> 01:53:30,280
up but but you know quite convincing

2644
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:33,220
quite convincing but I cannot say

2645
01:53:38,190 --> 01:53:35,410
because we didn't throw scientists that

2646
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:38,200
I was working with at the time onto that

2647
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:41,050
design and I've not seen published

2648
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:44,410
anywhere the plant analysis of the

2649
01:53:49,440 --> 01:53:47,410
electromagnetic spectrum other work that

2650
01:53:52,020 --> 01:53:49,450
has been going on with other designs I

2651
01:53:54,180 --> 01:53:52,030
wish you had because that design had a

2652
01:53:56,790 --> 01:53:54,190
lot of information it would be great to

2653
01:53:58,290 --> 01:53:56,800
matter whether you know that whether we

2654
01:54:01,110 --> 01:53:58,300
should be paying more attention to it

2655
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:01,120
than we have you know you've been

2656
01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:02,770
talking about consciousness in the role

2657
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:04,960
of consciousness not only in this

2658
01:54:10,590 --> 01:54:07,570
particular mysterious phenomenon but

2659
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:10,600
other areas as well and you know I often

2660
01:54:15,330 --> 01:54:12,250
wonder looking at the crop circle

2661
01:54:19,860 --> 01:54:15,340
community where the suspension of

2662
01:54:22,980 --> 01:54:19,870
disbelief ends and the kind of want want

2663
01:54:24,299 --> 01:54:22,990
to believe a new age kind of vibe begins

2664
01:54:26,839 --> 01:54:24,309
where do you come down on

2665
01:54:29,809 --> 01:54:26,849
some of the you know people touting a

2666
01:54:33,719 --> 01:54:29,819
particular personal opinions and agendas

2667
01:54:36,389 --> 01:54:33,729
relating to sacredness and kind of New

2668
01:54:38,489 --> 01:54:36,399
Age concepts just I'm just kind of

2669
01:54:41,099 --> 01:54:38,499
curious because there there is there is

2670
01:54:42,689 --> 01:54:41,109
a sense of consciousness and in some

2671
01:54:44,939 --> 01:54:42,699
sort of collective potentially

2672
01:54:47,250 --> 01:54:44,949
consciousness or compulsion for

2673
01:54:48,929 --> 01:54:47,260
individuals yeah but then we have this

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this whole belief thing almost a

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religious belief that's sprung up around

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these these wonderful artworks where do

2677
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you come where we should have that line

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01:55:03,750 --> 01:55:00,550
well where I come down is through

2679
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absolute thorough experience because

2680
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I've traveled that road you know when I

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first became involved there were four of

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us looking at empty fields only there

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with the farmers this grew for hundreds

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and then thousands and became a global

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known mystery and out of this from that

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single piece of paper we were talking

2687
01:55:28,129 --> 01:55:26,289
about there as an analogy in 1976 all of

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the pieces came together these were

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researchers these were political people

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these this is the infiltration of

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intelligence community this is every

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type of human being you could imagine

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from the dowsers to the religious to the

2694
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non-believers they're all there and what

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is it offered us was a unique window

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into humanity because from the beginning

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to the end we see how it works and in

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how it works there is always the desire

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with some people but not everybody is

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the same to have something they can hold

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the crotch to hold onto that crotch to

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hold that anchor and that usually in

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cells of religion this has all of the

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ingredients of it if you see something

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which is mysterious and you're stood in

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a wonderful landscape of central

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southern England which it is it's a

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beautiful place one has the air of a

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spiritual quality and so you know here's

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the ingredients it comes together

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because it's talking to you and at some

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level that is what it's doing of course

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the landscape does nature does

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it's what livings all about and then

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you see there's a message and there's

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patterning there is a purpose there is a

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mind it's even more religious and then

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you can start calling it names where I

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come down is that we failed ourselves

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because we allowed the desire to have

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something else creating all of this we

2722
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felt to acknowledge the truth in it and

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when evidence was offered when

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supporting strong evidence powerful

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evidence even by people make you some of

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them showing the crop circle fraternity

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but those that wanted to not only

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believe themselves but encouraged

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everybody else to believe it was all

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real in the religious sense because and

2731
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here we go money was involved you have

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here also not just in spiritualism yeah

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absolutely I mean the British government

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played right into that part of it :

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para cast dot-com the British government

2821
02:02:09,270 --> 02:02:06,780
had a part of the colony as explained

2822
02:02:11,940 --> 02:02:09,280
well the British government the British

2823
02:02:14,370 --> 02:02:11,950
tourist board wanted their cut if the

2824
02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:14,380
cake - I mean industries that grew out

2825
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:16,450
of this let me not leave myself out of

2826
02:02:21,090 --> 02:02:18,970
this I'll insert myself as I thought

2827
02:02:23,580 --> 02:02:21,100
this point through for just a second the

2828
02:02:25,710 --> 02:02:23,590
Service Board of course wanted it as

2829
02:02:28,140 --> 02:02:25,720
many people coming to visit crop circles

2830
02:02:30,930 --> 02:02:28,150
as possible because they all had to stay

2831
02:02:34,320 --> 02:02:30,940
somewhere they all had to eat and shop

2832
02:02:36,210 --> 02:02:34,330
and travel and fly you know and all

2833
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:36,220
these things were happening and as a

2834
02:02:40,950 --> 02:02:38,650
byproduct of having large numbers of

2835
02:02:42,950 --> 02:02:40,960
visitors like mass pilgrimage to

2836
02:02:46,410 --> 02:02:42,960
southern England which I partly created

2837
02:02:48,630 --> 02:02:46,420
incidentally because you know I'm one of

2838
02:02:51,060 --> 02:02:48,640
in fact probably the most significant

2839
02:02:52,230 --> 02:02:51,070
name I'm not I'm not planning myself on

2840
02:02:54,810 --> 02:02:52,240
the back I've been there from the

2841
02:02:56,700 --> 02:02:54,820
beginning and out there very public

2842
02:03:00,600 --> 02:02:56,710
motion television documentaries and

2843
02:03:03,540 --> 02:03:00,610
programs books and so on so I'm in here

2844
02:03:06,540 --> 02:03:03,550
you know I am in this equation but you

2845
02:03:08,760 --> 02:03:06,550
know what has to fess up for how far

2846
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:08,770
down this road could your conscience

2847
02:03:13,050 --> 02:03:11,170
possibly allow you to go if for example

2848
02:03:16,110 --> 02:03:13,060
you produce a book and

2849
02:03:18,150 --> 02:03:16,120
I could say I have two that the one that

2850
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:18,160
clashed with my change in direction

2851
02:03:23,610 --> 02:03:20,410
because I was reacting to why I was

2852
02:03:26,820 --> 02:03:23,620
given which was the level hoaxing that

2853
02:03:29,310 --> 02:03:26,830
broke the myth of spiritual you know of

2854
02:03:31,830 --> 02:03:29,320
the religion that was in here this book

2855
02:03:33,930 --> 02:03:31,840
which was crop circle signs of contact

2856
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:33,940
was published at the same time as a

2857
02:03:38,670 --> 02:03:36,010
science movie which I was an advisor to

2858
02:03:40,410 --> 02:03:38,680
Mel Gibson's movie on and of course

2859
02:03:42,750 --> 02:03:40,420
these things commit at the same time I

2860
02:03:44,490 --> 02:03:42,760
knew that when I was announcing to the

2861
02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:44,500
world around about the time just a

2862
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:47,170
little time we spoke on the phone that I

2863
02:03:50,430 --> 02:03:48,970
was about to chop my own feet off

2864
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:50,440
because I'm going to be announcing to

2865
02:03:54,990 --> 02:03:52,690
the work of these are man-made and I

2866
02:03:57,900 --> 02:03:55,000
just published a book on the same

2867
02:04:00,540 --> 02:03:57,910
subject but a lot of people can't do it

2868
02:04:02,370 --> 02:04:00,550
they simply can't go that route and when

2869
02:04:05,100 --> 02:04:02,380
they're shown you know the reality of

2870
02:04:07,380 --> 02:04:05,110
what's going on they will fight you to

2871
02:04:10,740 --> 02:04:07,390
the death rather than concede that now

2872
02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:10,750
we've been taken in in being taken in we

2873
02:04:16,650 --> 02:04:12,850
weren't throwing the way out of that

2874
02:04:19,140 --> 02:04:16,660
bear the guys had equally a part of the

2875
02:04:21,330 --> 02:04:19,150
equation an important part of the

2876
02:04:23,880 --> 02:04:21,340
subject yeah that's a really good point

2877
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:23,890
because people once they get that that

2878
02:04:31,770 --> 02:04:27,490
sense of wonder that evolves into almost

2879
02:04:33,150 --> 02:04:31,780
religious or spiritual longing the last

2880
02:04:34,200 --> 02:04:33,160
thing they want to hear is that they're

2881
02:04:36,420 --> 02:04:34,210
being delusional

2882
02:04:40,350 --> 02:04:36,430
especially around you know the religious

2883
02:04:41,880 --> 02:04:40,360
subject it's a real touchy area and ever

2884
02:04:43,590 --> 02:04:41,890
tend to overreact

2885
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:43,600
yeah a lot of the things that I've often

2886
02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:45,850
wondered is how the farmers support

2887
02:04:51,510 --> 02:04:48,490
farmers in that region especially in the

2888
02:04:53,910 --> 02:04:51,520
the most heavily impacted region how do

2889
02:04:56,670 --> 02:04:53,920
they feel about this I know some of them

2890
02:04:58,590 --> 02:04:56,680
really are not happy the magic basket

2891
02:05:00,600 --> 02:04:58,600
formation for instance which I thought

2892
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:00,610
was one of the most amazing ones was cut

2893
02:05:05,430 --> 02:05:02,050
down within a matter of a couple of

2894
02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:05,440
hours by a very angry farmer what sort

2895
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:08,290
of evolution of thinking do we see or

2896
02:05:12,060 --> 02:05:10,090
reaction that we see in the farming

2897
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:12,070
community there well it certainly

2898
02:05:18,930 --> 02:05:14,650
started in our early days where the

2899
02:05:21,390 --> 02:05:18,940
farmers you know were deprived I think I

2900
02:05:23,010 --> 02:05:21,400
think the turn is primed to happen in

2901
02:05:24,690 --> 02:05:23,020
their field they would come start

2902
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:24,700
boasting between their neighbors that

2903
02:05:28,020 --> 02:05:25,810
they've had

2904
02:05:29,820 --> 02:05:28,030
crop circle in the sense of you know I

2905
02:05:32,280 --> 02:05:29,830
got to be special somehow because my

2906
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:32,290
field was chosen they were involved I

2907
02:05:37,410 --> 02:05:34,810
mean I most of those guys became my

2908
02:05:40,020 --> 02:05:37,420
friends they would send me up to 8,000

2909
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:40,030
when they discovered them their families

2910
02:05:45,270 --> 02:05:42,490
would come to the presentations they

2911
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:45,280
would push me on to contacts they were

2912
02:05:50,250 --> 02:05:48,250
involved they had their own views many

2913
02:05:51,750 --> 02:05:50,260
most of them were convinced that there

2914
02:05:54,090 --> 02:05:51,760
was nothing natural about this and

2915
02:05:56,100 --> 02:05:54,100
anybody that knows the farming community

2916
02:05:58,920 --> 02:05:56,110
these are real people they'll tell you

2917
02:06:00,420 --> 02:05:58,930
bluntly what they think good or bad so

2918
02:06:02,970 --> 02:06:00,430
that's how it began

2919
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:02,980
I've been involved in change for us in

2920
02:06:08,070 --> 02:06:05,530
our realization that not all of this was

2921
02:06:10,170 --> 02:06:08,080
kosher it changed for the farming

2922
02:06:12,180 --> 02:06:10,180
community because they felt that now

2923
02:06:14,190 --> 02:06:12,190
they were being abused they were being

2924
02:06:14,730 --> 02:06:14,200
made fun art name they were having a

2925
02:06:16,920 --> 02:06:14,740
nuisance

2926
02:06:18,630 --> 02:06:16,930
because they were men when these crops

2927
02:06:20,820 --> 02:06:18,640
are flattened yeah I mean this is not

2928
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:20,830
you know this is a nice answer

2929
02:06:26,160 --> 02:06:22,930
that's right there's all season

2930
02:06:28,890 --> 02:06:26,170
farthings that's right I mean it gets

2931
02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:28,900
its money its money and and it's happy

2932
02:06:33,390 --> 02:06:31,210
and it's safely you know it's overlooked

2933
02:06:35,460 --> 02:06:33,400
by a lot of people and to people that

2934
02:06:38,340 --> 02:06:35,470
visit too it's overlooked and I was a

2935
02:06:39,960 --> 02:06:38,350
firefighter for 15 years in that area so

2936
02:06:43,740 --> 02:06:39,970
I can tell you a game from experience

2937
02:06:46,710 --> 02:06:43,750
that when you have a cigarette and drop

2938
02:06:50,130 --> 02:06:46,720
in a ripened field like that fire

2939
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spreads fast I've had to run with my own

2940
02:06:54,390 --> 02:06:51,910
life several times many of the guys do

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02:06:56,460 --> 02:06:54,400
well unless you are equipped with hoses

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02:06:59,010 --> 02:06:56,470
and a fire appliance you know right

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02:07:01,550 --> 02:06:59,020
alongside you it's a very dangerous

2944
02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:01,560
environment to be in and that's the

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responsibility of the farmers when they

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have hundreds of people stood in a field

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02:07:11,790 --> 02:07:09,190
looking in the middle it's a half a mile

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02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:11,800
to get out that's a half a mile for fit

2949
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people to run fast and once talking

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02:07:17,430 --> 02:07:15,400
about fast if you have a windy day

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you're looking at the possibility of

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losing a lot of people so you know

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there's a lot to consider and these guys

2954
02:07:26,850 --> 02:07:24,730
are up to their ears with it now the

2955
02:07:29,190 --> 02:07:26,860
level of hoaxing which needs being

2956
02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:29,200
convinced of you know what some through

2957
02:07:32,670 --> 02:07:30,970
some of my work and other people's work

2958
02:07:34,380 --> 02:07:32,680
they have seen the recent television

2959
02:07:36,060 --> 02:07:34,390
documentaries of people making them

2960
02:07:38,340 --> 02:07:36,070
we've had undercover and Laurance

2961
02:07:39,850 --> 02:07:38,350
Rockefeller funded some of that you know

2962
02:07:42,580 --> 02:07:39,860
filming people making

2963
02:07:45,010 --> 02:07:42,590
and so their attitudes has changed they

2964
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are now angry and you know we've even

2965
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had as you probably know I think there

2966
02:07:51,669 --> 02:07:49,130
was it three years ago you know when a

2967
02:07:54,700 --> 02:07:51,679
farmer with a loaded gun fired over the

2968
02:07:57,280 --> 02:07:54,710
tops of the heads of researchers that's

2969
02:08:00,040 --> 02:07:57,290
the core case you know which perhaps are

2970
02:08:02,109 --> 02:08:00,050
not best equipped to to comment upon but

2971
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that's the level of anger you're looking

2972
02:08:08,740 --> 02:08:05,659
at it's gone from very cooperative nice

2973
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community to you know just keep please

2974
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keep air in my field yeah maybe that's

2975
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why we're seeing a gradual reduction in

2976
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the number of circles being reported I

2977
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think this last year was there was quite

2978
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a reduced level of activity you know in

2979
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relation to the past years well one of

2980
02:08:29,229 --> 02:08:26,809
the things that's always puzzled me is

2981
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these balls of light that are fairly

2982
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consistently reported from time to time

2983
02:08:37,089 --> 02:08:34,159
as being somehow involved in the

2984
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creation of these circles of course some

2985
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of us remember the infamous Oliver's

2986
02:08:44,080 --> 02:08:42,290
castle footage had what appears that

2987
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three balls of light creating the crop

2988
02:08:48,490 --> 02:08:45,980
circle which was later debunked and then

2989
02:08:49,899 --> 02:08:48,500
later there was some question of whether

2990
02:08:52,180 --> 02:08:49,909
it should have been debunk where do you

2991
02:08:54,819 --> 02:08:52,190
come down on that particular footage and

2992
02:08:59,229 --> 02:08:54,829
the role of these balls of life well I

2993
02:09:03,189 --> 02:08:59,239
was sulphide by the person who I just

2994
02:09:06,390 --> 02:09:03,199
started all of us Castle I spent six

2995
02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:06,400
months or so very very intensively

2996
02:09:09,370 --> 02:09:08,210
specifically involved in that

2997
02:09:11,830 --> 02:09:09,380
investigation

2998
02:09:14,260 --> 02:09:11,840
I was sought out by the person who

2999
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filmed it who claimed to have filmed it

3000
02:09:20,200 --> 02:09:16,150
I think there's a way I should put it

3001
02:09:22,209 --> 02:09:20,210
John Whaley that was what who he said he

3002
02:09:26,379 --> 02:09:22,219
was at the time later research found him

3003
02:09:29,530 --> 02:09:26,389
to be John wavy wabe he sought me I went

3004
02:09:31,540 --> 02:09:29,540
with Cynthia as my witness at a medium

3005
02:09:34,030 --> 02:09:31,550
in a pub shown the footage through his

3006
02:09:37,020 --> 02:09:34,040
actual camera and it was very impressed

3007
02:09:41,589 --> 02:09:37,030
with it he offered that film to be

3008
02:09:43,780 --> 02:09:41,599
loaned to me for research and it was

3009
02:09:45,669 --> 02:09:43,790
researched there was later and I'm

3010
02:09:48,339 --> 02:09:45,679
sucking through a lot of stuff here but

3011
02:09:50,890 --> 02:09:48,349
it was later I engaged again through

3012
02:09:53,470 --> 02:09:50,900
Lawrence Rockefellers funding in that

3013
02:09:56,530 --> 02:09:53,480
period to employ

3014
02:10:00,610 --> 02:09:56,540
undercover agencies to look into it

3015
02:10:03,340 --> 02:10:00,620
because as you rightly say or I will say

3016
02:10:05,770 --> 02:10:03,350
that it was very impressive and showed

3017
02:10:08,260 --> 02:10:05,780
autoflight supposed to be making - or

3018
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supplies supposedly making an intricate

3019
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crop design well if that was from real

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then of course that was the biggest

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breakthrough that we get had so we had

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to put invest a lot of effort into

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establishing that fact we have : Andrews

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02:14:52,280 --> 02:14:49,420
hi my name is Richard Dolan you're

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listening to the Peres Cass

3132
02:15:03,919 --> 02:15:01,669
Honda power casters gene and Chris we

3133
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have Colin Andrews joining us the book

3134
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is on the edge of reality written with

3135
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his wife Cynthia Andrews so in doing a

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project like this you basically do the

3137
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research and she does the writing or

3138
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what well this one book while actually

3139
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three books like s we have done together

3140
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and the research is almost you know

3141
02:15:26,540 --> 02:15:24,270
entirely mine Cynthia is the writer I am

3142
02:15:29,600 --> 02:15:26,550
NOT a writer so she is the writer of

3143
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this book and I think it's an excellent

3144
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one but she has a major hand she's not

3145
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only a very intelligent person but she's

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had her own experiences she's a

3147
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naturopathic physician and has a real

3148
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import with ideas and thoughts also so

3149
02:15:46,640 --> 02:15:43,890
that's very kind of spread our input

3150
02:15:49,399 --> 02:15:46,650
into the book but on the Oliver's Castle

3151
02:15:51,729 --> 02:15:49,409
footage I engage through Lawrence

3152
02:15:55,060 --> 02:15:51,739
Rockefellers funding undercover people

3153
02:15:57,979 --> 02:15:55,070
professionals who had access to

3154
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intelligent systems that I did not have

3155
02:16:04,430 --> 02:16:02,400
they infiltrated the family of this

3156
02:16:07,490 --> 02:16:04,440
person who claimed to have made this

3157
02:16:11,240 --> 02:16:07,500
film and also the company we worked for

3158
02:16:14,720 --> 02:16:11,250
this was a video editing production

3159
02:16:16,640 --> 02:16:14,730
swing in Bath England where that footage

3160
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I am totally confident having be shown

3161
02:16:20,959 --> 02:16:19,230
all of the data and the footage and in

3162
02:16:24,380 --> 02:16:20,969
the acknowledgement from the people

3163
02:16:28,729 --> 02:16:24,390
concerned who manufactured it this was a

3164
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hoax perpetrated to confuse the research

3165
02:16:34,070 --> 02:16:31,230
community and also at the same time to

3166
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make as much money as possible they were

3167
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hoping that I would go running with it

3168
02:16:41,179 --> 02:16:38,729
and the television companies would pay a

3169
02:16:43,339 --> 02:16:41,189
lot of money to run the footage they

3170
02:16:45,740 --> 02:16:43,349
later made footage which has been

3171
02:16:48,500 --> 02:16:45,750
offered and I have seen a copy of it

3172
02:16:51,379 --> 02:16:48,510
from Nippon television Japan showing

3173
02:16:54,650 --> 02:16:51,389
that they also how they manufactured

3174
02:16:56,060 --> 02:16:54,660
that footage I do know that into and you

3175
02:16:57,709 --> 02:16:56,070
know the background as to why this has

3176
02:16:59,929 --> 02:16:57,719
been brought back up again and that it

3177
02:17:02,629 --> 02:16:59,939
is not a fraud for this reason or that

3178
02:17:04,640 --> 02:17:02,639
reason that one frame has got designs on

3179
02:17:06,200 --> 02:17:04,650
it there are technical explanations for

3180
02:17:08,570 --> 02:17:06,210
it I'm not the guys talk to you about

3181
02:17:10,400 --> 02:17:08,580
that but I can tell you from the

3182
02:17:13,040 --> 02:17:10,410
agencies that looked at it it

3183
02:17:15,169 --> 02:17:13,050
absolutely was manufactured in Bath

3184
02:17:17,509 --> 02:17:15,179
England do you have a sense of what

3185
02:17:21,139 --> 02:17:17,519
proportion of these things are just

3186
02:17:23,270 --> 02:17:21,149
frauds these circles or the orbs let's

3187
02:17:25,879 --> 02:17:23,280
go with both well with the crop circles

3188
02:17:28,100 --> 02:17:25,889
things have changed since since you know

3189
02:17:30,469 --> 02:17:28,110
we threw everything at it looking at the

3190
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housing specifically during you know 99

3191
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year 2000 in England alone those

3192
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percentages then were 80 man-made 20

3193
02:17:41,540 --> 02:17:39,750
unresolved I think today I would and

3194
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this is a guess based upon what I'm

3195
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looking at

3196
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you know in the data that I'm I

3197
02:17:50,379 --> 02:17:47,880
continued and receive here I would go as

3198
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far as to say that the vast majority

3199
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probably more than ninety percent are

3200
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made by people and I could put names on

3201
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many many many many of them who the

3202
02:18:05,209 --> 02:18:03,179
mystery is I feel to bring it back to

3203
02:18:08,360 --> 02:18:05,219
here I'm not avoiding the question and

3204
02:18:10,700 --> 02:18:08,370
I'll give you more information on it but

3205
02:18:13,580 --> 02:18:10,710
I do think it's very important to keep

3206
02:18:15,530 --> 02:18:13,590
in mind it's so easy to climb over the

3207
02:18:17,990 --> 02:18:15,540
fact that where I think the effort

3208
02:18:20,360 --> 02:18:18,000
should be put now is in this intelligent

3209
02:18:23,299 --> 02:18:20,370
component because it relates to both of

3210
02:18:25,339 --> 02:18:23,309
them if I said to you know 98 percent 98

3211
02:18:27,889 --> 02:18:25,349
percent are made by people that not only

3212
02:18:29,780 --> 02:18:27,899
shuts the audience on because who wants

3213
02:18:30,860 --> 02:18:29,790
to be spending their time on nonsense

3214
02:18:32,719 --> 02:18:30,870
you know there's a lot of important

3215
02:18:34,879 --> 02:18:32,729
things happening in our world critical

3216
02:18:37,969 --> 02:18:34,889
things are happening in our world but if

3217
02:18:39,770 --> 02:18:37,979
I would say to you which I am that 98

3218
02:18:41,900 --> 02:18:39,780
percent are made by people who are being

3219
02:18:43,790 --> 02:18:41,910
influenced to make them now that's a

3220
02:18:44,419 --> 02:18:43,800
different ballgame at very different

3221
02:18:48,860 --> 02:18:44,429
ballgame

3222
02:18:50,690 --> 02:18:48,870
and a hundred percent 100 percent of the

3223
02:18:54,169 --> 02:18:50,700
theater that has been set in motion

3224
02:18:57,440 --> 02:18:54,179
since 1976 needs to be thoroughly

3225
02:19:00,169 --> 02:18:57,450
researched for the intelligent component

3226
02:19:02,929 --> 02:19:00,179
because once that is correct or even the

3227
02:19:05,060 --> 02:19:02,939
perception that it is not under total

3228
02:19:06,770 --> 02:19:05,070
control of the mind function of people

3229
02:19:09,440 --> 02:19:06,780
involved in these component parts of

3230
02:19:10,910 --> 02:19:09,450
making them or researching them and when

3231
02:19:13,280 --> 02:19:10,920
we established it as I was saying

3232
02:19:14,900 --> 02:19:13,290
earlier that you know your pop stars

3233
02:19:17,509 --> 02:19:14,910
your ministers your your political

3234
02:19:19,759 --> 02:19:17,519
leaders your religious ministers all of

3235
02:19:22,850 --> 02:19:19,769
these people are living in an

3236
02:19:24,389 --> 02:19:22,860
environment of a paradigm that is

3237
02:19:27,900 --> 02:19:24,399
experiencing the same thing

3238
02:19:29,910 --> 02:19:27,910
unless they realize it and fess up to it

3239
02:19:32,179 --> 02:19:29,920
and have something to bounce it off of

3240
02:19:34,650 --> 02:19:32,189
that we do have in the crop circle

3241
02:19:37,919 --> 02:19:34,660
fraternity because it's been a limited

3242
02:19:39,509 --> 02:19:37,929
period and the UFO paternity - you know

3243
02:19:41,580 --> 02:19:39,519
there is no difference as I was saying

3244
02:19:44,969 --> 02:19:41,590
that where you could meditate for

3245
02:19:47,370 --> 02:19:44,979
requests visualize visualization process

3246
02:19:50,639 --> 02:19:47,380
and Steven Greer does for example he's

3247
02:19:52,770 --> 02:19:50,649
not alone he's one person but many and

3248
02:19:54,330 --> 02:19:52,780
and you know I said my own stuff with

3249
02:19:56,550 --> 02:19:54,340
this to come if I'm talking nonsense

3250
02:19:58,200 --> 02:19:56,560
I'll stop right there I just want to

3251
02:20:00,599 --> 02:19:58,210
point one thing : before you go yeah

3252
02:20:03,750 --> 02:20:00,609
Steven Greer doesn't get the love from

3253
02:20:05,820 --> 02:20:03,760
this show no I kept achill of what he

3254
02:20:08,340 --> 02:20:05,830
does but in the story you know he's dead

3255
02:20:11,370 --> 02:20:08,350
he logo is really an amazing story that

3256
02:20:13,860 --> 02:20:11,380
particular formation just as an example

3257
02:20:16,679 --> 02:20:13,870
of how intriguing this whole subject is

3258
02:20:19,200 --> 02:20:16,689
I mean that that formation and the story

3259
02:20:21,870 --> 02:20:19,210
behind it is pretty amazing it is you

3260
02:20:23,849 --> 02:20:21,880
see this is where I was going with it

3261
02:20:25,860 --> 02:20:23,859
you know with the Steven Greer thing is

3262
02:20:27,540 --> 02:20:25,870
I knew you know before I said it that

3263
02:20:30,570 --> 02:20:27,550
you know kind of have strong feelings

3264
02:20:32,490 --> 02:20:30,580
about it and I know many people who have

3265
02:20:35,940 --> 02:20:32,500
strong feelings about Steven Greer I

3266
02:20:37,080 --> 02:20:35,950
have my own areas where it's very

3267
02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:37,090
difficult for me to say on they're

3268
02:20:41,580 --> 02:20:39,130
probably easier for you in some ways but

3269
02:20:45,060 --> 02:20:41,590
I continue to feel that it is necessary

3270
02:20:47,550 --> 02:20:45,070
to engage all of us in this because I do

3271
02:20:49,860 --> 02:20:47,560
accept that there are areas in these

3272
02:20:52,530 --> 02:20:49,870
areas of research which encompasses the

3273
02:20:55,139 --> 02:20:52,540
research the UFO research and Steven

3274
02:20:57,300 --> 02:20:55,149
Greer some part of this there is plenty

3275
02:21:00,300 --> 02:20:57,310
of room in here where exaggeration takes

3276
02:21:02,690 --> 02:21:00,310
place we're painting pictures they are

3277
02:21:06,240 --> 02:21:02,700
not accurate to what has transpired

3278
02:21:09,330 --> 02:21:06,250
takes place these things are all true

3279
02:21:11,790 --> 02:21:09,340
and these things need to be said

3280
02:21:13,469 --> 02:21:11,800
I agree his message is more important

3281
02:21:15,630 --> 02:21:13,479
than he is yes exactly

3282
02:21:17,929 --> 02:21:15,640
now you say it's a big tent everybody

3283
02:21:20,580 --> 02:21:17,939
should be included however you have to

3284
02:21:22,950 --> 02:21:20,590
understand that certain people because

3285
02:21:25,560 --> 02:21:22,960
of whatever grandstanding ego reasons

3286
02:21:28,230 --> 02:21:25,570
money reasons confabulate dates they

3287
02:21:29,550 --> 02:21:28,240
exaggerate which does muddy the waters

3288
02:21:30,960 --> 02:21:29,560
up but but you were saying that

3289
02:21:32,460 --> 02:21:30,970
everybody should be included and we

3290
02:21:35,469 --> 02:21:32,470
shouldn't you know throw anybody's

3291
02:21:37,840 --> 02:21:35,479
opinion out no that is right and if

3292
02:21:41,109 --> 02:21:37,850
had done or you know just on the crop

3293
02:21:43,779 --> 02:21:41,119
circle front we would never have come to

3294
02:21:46,540 --> 02:21:43,789
what I ate for me this is this near a

3295
02:21:48,130 --> 02:21:46,550
conclusion I mean I'm sure there'll be

3296
02:21:50,469 --> 02:21:48,140
people will come forward and say you

3297
02:21:52,569 --> 02:21:50,479
know that you know cut cut the BS on

3298
02:21:55,029 --> 02:21:52,579
this you have a still a vested interest

3299
02:21:58,029 --> 02:21:55,039
well I'm retired officially you'd never

3300
02:22:01,029 --> 02:21:58,039
think so but officially iron was retired

3301
02:22:03,550 --> 02:22:01,039
I finished my job my well-paid job and I

3302
02:22:06,099 --> 02:22:03,560
chose to resign from regional government

3303
02:22:07,779 --> 02:22:06,109
in Great Britain and therefore yes it

3304
02:22:10,450 --> 02:22:07,789
was in my interest to try and find some

3305
02:22:12,880 --> 02:22:10,460
income but thanks to a wonderful family

3306
02:22:15,670 --> 02:22:12,890
and Cynthia's family in particular in

3307
02:22:18,219 --> 02:22:15,680
the United States have helped me when

3308
02:22:21,250 --> 02:22:18,229
I've committed myself to try and unravel

3309
02:22:23,349 --> 02:22:21,260
the truth and it is only the truth is

3310
02:22:25,359 --> 02:22:23,359
going to continue to hold me here so

3311
02:22:28,000 --> 02:22:25,369
when I you know come into contact with

3312
02:22:30,729 --> 02:22:28,010
people who are at distortions into this

3313
02:22:33,099 --> 02:22:30,739
whole thing I'm trying to unravel the

3314
02:22:35,080 --> 02:22:33,109
real part of it and so I've come

3315
02:22:37,330 --> 02:22:35,090
shoulder to shoulder I have been let me

3316
02:22:39,429 --> 02:22:37,340
just say this I guess it makes makes it

3317
02:22:41,500 --> 02:22:39,439
clear where I'm coming from it seemed

3318
02:22:42,939 --> 02:22:41,510
you know Stephen is kind of is it's

3319
02:22:44,349 --> 02:22:42,949
weird isn't it how you know their

3320
02:22:46,540 --> 02:22:44,359
personality can make an awful big

3321
02:22:49,599 --> 02:22:46,550
difference in how you know how we think

3322
02:22:52,029 --> 02:22:49,609
and what we think is important this is

3323
02:22:54,939 --> 02:22:52,039
what I need to say it kind of cleans my

3324
02:22:57,790 --> 02:22:54,949
patch up on this I think I have been on

3325
02:23:00,849 --> 02:22:57,800
two occasions with Steven Greer when

3326
02:23:03,880 --> 02:23:00,859
things have happened I cannot begin to

3327
02:23:06,880 --> 02:23:03,890
account for I have also been with Steven

3328
02:23:09,569 --> 02:23:06,890
when things have been said that that are

3329
02:23:12,700 --> 02:23:09,579
not what ISIL and have not been

3330
02:23:15,219 --> 02:23:12,710
perceived in the same way as what I saw

3331
02:23:17,260 --> 02:23:15,229
and what I witnessed what I did see and

3332
02:23:18,969 --> 02:23:17,270
I'll just relate to one of them as it

3333
02:23:20,739 --> 02:23:18,979
picks up articles of Chris's point

3334
02:23:23,019 --> 02:23:20,749
Nathan yourself I don't know change but

3335
02:23:25,330 --> 02:23:23,029
when we were talking about oryx these

3336
02:23:28,029 --> 02:23:25,340
things and I didn't answer you some orbs

3337
02:23:30,849 --> 02:23:28,039
are real I have no doubt about it we've

3338
02:23:33,370 --> 02:23:30,859
got footage of orbs that are not dust

3339
02:23:35,500 --> 02:23:33,380
particles in front of a camera these are

3340
02:23:37,420 --> 02:23:35,510
not water droplets in front of a flash

3341
02:23:39,760 --> 02:23:37,430
on when your cameras being caught on

3342
02:23:42,599 --> 02:23:39,770
automatic to you know low light levels I

3343
02:23:45,609 --> 02:23:42,609
can see an exaggerated close to the lens

3344
02:23:49,251 --> 02:23:45,619
debris in the atmosphere many of them

3345
02:23:52,640 --> 02:23:49,261
are that some of them are definitely not

3346
02:23:55,220 --> 02:23:52,650
I have seen and what I would estimate

3347
02:23:58,551 --> 02:23:55,230
maybe 18 inches two inches in diameter

3348
02:24:01,581 --> 02:23:58,561
orbs of light glowing coming through at

3349
02:24:04,371 --> 02:24:01,591
speed the low levels of the low bank of

3350
02:24:06,020 --> 02:24:04,381
cloud in Stevens rears presents he's

3351
02:24:08,691 --> 02:24:06,030
gone through his vectoring process I've

3352
02:24:11,871 --> 02:24:08,701
been there 60 70 hundred people were

3353
02:24:13,701 --> 02:24:11,881
there and ever know where this orbit of

3354
02:24:15,611 --> 02:24:13,711
light in southern England and a dark

3355
02:24:18,020 --> 02:24:15,621
field nothing else to confuse it was

3356
02:24:21,501 --> 02:24:18,030
shot through the cloud at very high

3357
02:24:29,571 --> 02:24:21,511
speed okay Colin Andrews joining Jean

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02:29:03,820 --> 02:29:02,110
as you'll appreciate listeners : when

3467
02:29:05,980 --> 02:29:03,830
you ask them the question will go on for

3468
02:29:07,930 --> 02:29:05,990
a while so we kind of had to break up

3469
02:29:10,211 --> 02:29:07,940
the answers I know we're kind of running

3470
02:29:12,820 --> 02:29:10,221
out of time here : so kind of finish

3471
02:29:15,730 --> 02:29:12,830
that up and then maybe answer one other

3472
02:29:17,140 --> 02:29:15,740
question of mine and it would have to be

3473
02:29:18,490 --> 02:29:17,150
done fairly quickly I don't know if we

3474
02:29:22,091 --> 02:29:18,500
have time for any more questions and

3475
02:29:25,301 --> 02:29:22,101
that is of the various subjects we deal

3476
02:29:26,711 --> 02:29:25,311
with here orbs crop circles etc maybe

3477
02:29:28,511 --> 02:29:26,721
mention a few of the common

3478
02:29:31,810 --> 02:29:28,521
misconceptions but please finish this

3479
02:29:33,370 --> 02:29:31,820
answer yes I will finish it very briefly

3480
02:29:35,190 --> 02:29:33,380
just to say that there was no doubt in

3481
02:29:37,240 --> 02:29:35,200
my mind that this was not anything

3482
02:29:39,490 --> 02:29:37,250
normal not anything that we could

3483
02:29:41,980 --> 02:29:39,500
rationally explain away and that was in

3484
02:29:44,410 --> 02:29:41,990
his presence so to throw that out you

3485
02:29:46,660 --> 02:29:44,420
with everything else because Steven

3486
02:29:48,160 --> 02:29:46,670
Greer was present would be a miss

3487
02:29:50,770 --> 02:29:48,170
justice I think an injustice to

3488
02:29:53,440 --> 02:29:50,780
ourselves in our work so that would be

3489
02:29:55,180 --> 02:29:53,450
my point yeah he shows up in crest on

3490
02:29:56,921 --> 02:29:55,190
every year to do his ambassador to the

3491
02:29:59,381 --> 02:29:56,931
universe training I think he's going on

3492
02:30:01,690 --> 02:29:59,391
18 or 19 years of course I was the one

3493
02:30:03,430 --> 02:30:01,700
who introduced him to the area and for

3494
02:30:06,341 --> 02:30:03,440
the first five or six years that he

3495
02:30:08,740 --> 02:30:06,351
would show up nothing would happen with

3496
02:30:10,450 --> 02:30:08,750
Greer's party sky watching to be a few

3497
02:30:12,640 --> 02:30:10,460
kind of mundane things that were

3498
02:30:15,280 --> 02:30:12,650
equivocal but the rest of the valley

3499
02:30:17,680 --> 02:30:15,290
would go nuts and at one point I told

3500
02:30:20,591 --> 02:30:17,690
sherry adamak is now long departed

3501
02:30:21,820 --> 02:30:20,601
manager of C SETI I told her you know

3502
02:30:24,041 --> 02:30:21,830
Steven it's got to give better

3503
02:30:25,780 --> 02:30:24,051
directions because they're chasing all

3504
02:30:28,961 --> 02:30:25,790
around the San Luis Valley everywhere

3505
02:30:31,660 --> 02:30:28,971
but here can you mention a few very

3506
02:30:33,190 --> 02:30:31,670
quickly other misconceptions people

3507
02:30:36,580 --> 02:30:33,200
might have about crop circles and orbs

3508
02:30:38,591 --> 02:30:36,590
well I don't quite know where to start

3509
02:30:40,600 --> 02:30:38,601
with that I mean the misconceptions

3510
02:30:42,580 --> 02:30:40,610
really I think in some way that we've

3511
02:30:44,171 --> 02:30:42,590
kind of covered unless you're saying

3512
02:30:47,020 --> 02:30:44,181
that you know there's an area that I

3513
02:30:48,280 --> 02:30:47,030
need to to go further with I mean

3514
02:30:51,070 --> 02:30:48,290
there's there are many misconceptions

3515
02:30:53,761 --> 02:30:51,080
with crop circles there saying that many

3516
02:30:55,720 --> 02:30:53,771
people think they are real they're not

3517
02:30:58,091 --> 02:30:55,730
misconceptions that they all mean

3518
02:31:00,791 --> 02:30:58,101
something and I don't think they do

3519
02:31:02,950 --> 02:31:00,801
there are groups of hoaxers and you know

3520
02:31:04,660 --> 02:31:02,960
just to give them that term some are

3521
02:31:05,261 --> 02:31:04,670
just simply out there to have a bit of

3522
02:31:08,680 --> 02:31:05,271
fun

3523
02:31:10,211 --> 02:31:08,690
others are mischief biking I mean in the

3524
02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:10,221
real sense that they're they're wanting

3525
02:31:15,090 --> 02:31:11,170
to cause a prop

3526
02:31:17,250 --> 02:31:15,100
I think people have suspected on

3527
02:31:19,110 --> 02:31:17,260
occasion that there might be other

3528
02:31:21,660 --> 02:31:19,120
agencies more government related

3529
02:31:23,490 --> 02:31:21,670
agencies that are distorting the

3530
02:31:27,120 --> 02:31:23,500
information by interfering with patterns

3531
02:31:29,540 --> 02:31:27,130
that appear that have some meaningful

3532
02:31:32,880 --> 02:31:29,550
from some meaning to them that we would

3533
02:31:34,890 --> 02:31:32,890
discover to find that a helicopter and I

3534
02:31:37,830 --> 02:31:34,900
have interviewed farmers that have told

3535
02:31:39,630 --> 02:31:37,840
me this in England and India actually

3536
02:31:42,420 --> 02:31:39,640
there's another case here in the US

3537
02:31:45,870 --> 02:31:42,430
where a helicopter was heard by a farmer

3538
02:31:47,429 --> 02:31:45,880
hovering over his field at night you

3539
02:31:49,620 --> 02:31:47,439
know lights coming down and the rest of

3540
02:31:52,370 --> 02:31:49,630
it to find it clearly somebody has

3541
02:31:55,920 --> 02:31:52,380
dropped in and has interfered with a

3542
02:31:57,480 --> 02:31:55,930
design that was already there so I don't

3543
02:32:00,050 --> 02:31:57,490
know that there all kinds of

3544
02:32:04,620 --> 02:32:00,060
misconceptions as to how we read this I

3545
02:32:06,480 --> 02:32:04,630
would say that if the British people I

3546
02:32:08,700 --> 02:32:06,490
guess one in this modern day of

3547
02:32:11,370 --> 02:32:08,710
communication can go on to say anybody

3548
02:32:14,090 --> 02:32:11,380
in the world believes that the UK

3549
02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:14,100
government and the Queen a head of state

3550
02:32:19,410 --> 02:32:17,290
has no interest in this phenomenon I can

3551
02:32:23,010 --> 02:32:19,420
assure you as the guide advised both at

3552
02:32:27,179 --> 02:32:23,020
one point is is totally incorrect

3553
02:32:28,650 --> 02:32:27,189
you know I crop circles or government

3554
02:32:30,179 --> 02:32:28,660
circles the book that I wrote called

3555
02:32:31,800 --> 02:32:30,189
government circles it's all the

3556
02:32:35,070 --> 02:32:31,810
documentation in there you'll ever want

3557
02:32:38,880 --> 02:32:35,080
to see to convince anybody that they are

3558
02:32:42,000 --> 02:32:38,890
very interested and involved but don't

3559
02:32:45,690 --> 02:32:42,010
have all of the answers well that leads

3560
02:32:48,719 --> 02:32:45,700
us to another question and this one is

3561
02:32:51,270 --> 02:32:48,729
from psychedelic alchemists again and

3562
02:32:54,090 --> 02:32:51,280
he's wondering about circles that are

3563
02:32:57,240 --> 02:32:54,100
found now around the world of course

3564
02:32:59,250 --> 02:32:57,250
this 90% as you I think you put that

3565
02:33:02,040 --> 02:32:59,260
number on it 90% of these formations are

3566
02:33:03,450 --> 02:33:02,050
found in southern England but we've been

3567
02:33:05,490 --> 02:33:03,460
seeing them in Holland in Germany in the

3568
02:33:08,700 --> 02:33:05,500
United States Canada Australia you

3569
02:33:11,460 --> 02:33:08,710
rattled off a list of places what are

3570
02:33:14,070 --> 02:33:11,470
the commonalities between those circles

3571
02:33:16,440 --> 02:33:14,080
and the ones in England and why don't we

3572
02:33:17,760 --> 02:33:16,450
see the complexity that we see in

3573
02:33:20,070 --> 02:33:17,770
England in some of these other countries

3574
02:33:23,850 --> 02:33:20,080
is it just because the the circle makers

3575
02:33:24,520 --> 02:33:23,860
haven't had as much practice well I

3576
02:33:26,381 --> 02:33:24,530
think

3577
02:33:29,501 --> 02:33:26,391
something to that what will you have

3578
02:33:31,360 --> 02:33:29,511
seen without a tribute seeing how they

3579
02:33:34,421 --> 02:33:31,370
got there it's always the same thing you

3580
02:33:36,790 --> 02:33:34,431
you have to apply the the research the

3581
02:33:39,421 --> 02:33:36,800
science you know the surveillance the

3582
02:33:42,220 --> 02:33:39,431
data to know the answer to that and

3583
02:33:44,770 --> 02:33:42,230
neither of those things is possible

3584
02:33:47,200 --> 02:33:44,780
without considerable funding and that is

3585
02:33:49,841 --> 02:33:47,210
a problem globally let alone in the hot

3586
02:33:51,881 --> 02:33:49,851
spot of southern England what I think is

3587
02:33:53,980 --> 02:33:51,891
happening however whatever hand is his

3588
02:33:56,770 --> 02:33:53,990
puts of this if they appear in all

3589
02:33:59,711 --> 02:33:56,780
countries first initially in simple

3590
02:34:02,230 --> 02:33:59,721
forms and they have including China with

3591
02:34:05,470 --> 02:34:02,240
the Red Army if discovered gun in Russia

3592
02:34:06,970 --> 02:34:05,480
in just a well so many countries I've

3593
02:34:09,220 --> 02:34:06,980
forgotten the numbers now but we're up

3594
02:34:12,881 --> 02:34:09,230
into the region of 70 or 80 countries

3595
02:34:14,620 --> 02:34:12,891
and they always begin simply and however

3596
02:34:17,261 --> 02:34:14,630
they got there and they evolved

3597
02:34:18,690 --> 02:34:17,271
circlemakers and we'll a beaut that to

3598
02:34:21,910 --> 02:34:18,700
the circlemakers human or otherwise

3599
02:34:24,910 --> 02:34:21,920
there is an evolution that takes place

3600
02:34:28,261 --> 02:34:24,920
there is often the correlation and there

3601
02:34:31,270 --> 02:34:28,271
isn't consistently so in water

3602
02:34:33,730 --> 02:34:31,280
collecting points whether it's chalk the

3603
02:34:35,671 --> 02:34:33,740
geo structure of southern England with

3604
02:34:37,690 --> 02:34:35,681
vast quantities moving underground

3605
02:34:39,461 --> 02:34:37,700
depending upon whether its surface

3606
02:34:41,470 --> 02:34:39,471
weather conditions but there's a

3607
02:34:44,200 --> 02:34:41,480
reservoir held and contained in that

3608
02:34:45,910 --> 02:34:44,210
chalk in other parts of the world is

3609
02:34:49,120 --> 02:34:45,920
water collecting points whether they're

3610
02:34:51,631 --> 02:34:49,130
called coupons or ponds or rivers water

3611
02:34:54,131 --> 02:34:51,641
collecting points water points and

3612
02:34:55,841 --> 02:34:54,141
archaeological sites the archaeological

3613
02:34:58,360 --> 02:34:55,851
sites keeps coming back time and time

3614
02:34:59,890 --> 02:34:58,370
again well it could be that has been

3615
02:35:03,040 --> 02:34:59,900
evolved the information has been

3616
02:35:05,440 --> 02:35:03,050
communicated to people that they choose

3617
02:35:08,140 --> 02:35:05,450
to make them their archaeological sites

3618
02:35:10,720 --> 02:35:08,150
it is possible we don't have the answers

3619
02:35:13,900 --> 02:35:10,730
to all of these things and so I think

3620
02:35:15,400 --> 02:35:13,910
that's my my best answer to that I don't

3621
02:35:18,011 --> 02:35:15,410
know whether I've got a few moments that

3622
02:35:20,171 --> 02:35:18,021
I think I I feel appropriate if it's

3623
02:35:22,150 --> 02:35:20,181
okay with you to remind us really what I

3624
02:35:24,671 --> 02:35:22,160
think is happening as far as paradigm

3625
02:35:27,430 --> 02:35:24,681
shift is concerned yes that's a time

3626
02:35:29,680 --> 02:35:27,440
yeah it is it kind of is because I think

3627
02:35:31,990 --> 02:35:29,690
it kind of funnels it towards the end of

3628
02:35:34,330 --> 02:35:32,000
our program here is that when you look

3629
02:35:36,160 --> 02:35:34,340
at the book and and I'm not asking you

3630
02:35:37,610 --> 02:35:36,170
to look at the book but the subject

3631
02:35:40,460 --> 02:35:37,620
matter we have discussed

3632
02:35:42,349 --> 02:35:40,470
today on this program when you talk

3633
02:35:44,990 --> 02:35:42,359
about paradigm shifts we talk about the

3634
02:35:47,090 --> 02:35:45,000
tendency is to look at scientific and

3635
02:35:49,880 --> 02:35:47,100
technical logical trends the culture and

3636
02:35:52,370 --> 02:35:49,890
new thinking a great deal of what we're

3637
02:35:55,160 --> 02:35:52,380
discovering however does not represent a

3638
02:35:58,099 --> 02:35:55,170
change in science and technology it

3639
02:36:00,469 --> 02:35:58,109
represents a change in humans new

3640
02:36:00,920 --> 02:36:00,479
information in consciousness exactly

3641
02:36:04,550 --> 02:36:00,930
right

3642
02:36:06,500 --> 02:36:04,560
new information engages the mine events

3643
02:36:10,400 --> 02:36:06,510
and we'll talk about some as strange as

3644
02:36:13,160 --> 02:36:10,410
they are engage the emotions emotions in

3645
02:36:16,429 --> 02:36:13,170
the human being is an electoral chemical

3646
02:36:19,730 --> 02:36:16,439
process and that is who we are and

3647
02:36:22,280 --> 02:36:19,740
emotional shifts push people to expand

3648
02:36:23,480 --> 02:36:22,290
each person who has experienced a high

3649
02:36:25,219 --> 02:36:23,490
strangeness event

3650
02:36:27,950 --> 02:36:25,229
I've had mine and I wouldn't mind Benton

3651
02:36:30,500 --> 02:36:27,960
you've had yours holds a small piece of

3652
02:36:33,050 --> 02:36:30,510
a larger picture and it is time to put

3653
02:36:35,210 --> 02:36:33,060
those pieces together that's what this

3654
02:36:37,429 --> 02:36:35,220
book hopes to do it's not about what we

3655
02:36:39,889 --> 02:36:37,439
theorize or Prue it is about what we

3656
02:36:42,080 --> 02:36:39,899
experience and how we feel

3657
02:36:45,290 --> 02:36:42,090
usually my emotion in saying this it's

3658
02:36:47,929 --> 02:36:45,300
how we feel it's about the changes our

3659
02:36:49,790 --> 02:36:47,939
experiences create within us it's how

3660
02:36:53,990 --> 02:36:49,800
that alters the way we see and interact

3661
02:36:57,139 --> 02:36:54,000
with our world we are at a turning point

3662
02:36:59,450 --> 02:36:57,149
and is people's Christian stories are

3663
02:37:01,760 --> 02:36:59,460
going to make an important difference in

3664
02:37:04,610 --> 02:37:01,770
our future that's what changes the

3665
02:37:07,969 --> 02:37:04,620
environment and the socially engineered

3666
02:37:11,240 --> 02:37:07,979
world in which we live that's really

3667
02:37:13,520 --> 02:37:11,250
what is happening today as we speak on

3668
02:37:15,710 --> 02:37:13,530
this program I couldn't have said it

3669
02:37:17,570 --> 02:37:15,720
better myself but the one problem is

3670
02:37:20,389 --> 02:37:17,580
it's like we're trying to turn around a

3671
02:37:22,849 --> 02:37:20,399
aircraft carrier with a set of oars at

3672
02:37:25,490 --> 02:37:22,859
this point we seem to be sliding down a

3673
02:37:29,330 --> 02:37:25,500
slippery slope and boy I just hope that

3674
02:37:31,099 --> 02:37:29,340
there's a wave of open consciousness or

3675
02:37:33,980 --> 02:37:31,109
something that's gonna jerk people out

3676
02:37:35,360 --> 02:37:33,990
of this particular mindset there's so

3677
02:37:37,429 --> 02:37:35,370
many people in this planet walking

3678
02:37:41,090 --> 02:37:37,439
around and waking coma it's it's really

3679
02:37:42,889 --> 02:37:41,100
sad yes it is I am with you I just feel

3680
02:37:45,290 --> 02:37:42,899
that it is incumbent upon us

3681
02:37:48,349 --> 02:37:45,300
it is our responsibility whatever our

3682
02:37:50,240 --> 02:37:48,359
political bands are is to and I hope it

3683
02:37:51,091 --> 02:37:50,250
doesn't sign to a new age it's not

3684
02:37:54,390 --> 02:37:51,101
intended to

3685
02:37:56,700 --> 02:37:54,400
we must leave especially as you write he

3686
02:38:00,511 --> 02:37:56,710
just said in this current environment we

3687
02:38:01,830 --> 02:38:00,521
must leave our children hope : would you

3688
02:38:03,990 --> 02:38:01,840
tell my listeners where they can climb

3689
02:38:06,570 --> 02:38:04,000
orders sir thank you very much it's

3690
02:38:08,551 --> 02:38:06,580
Colin Andrews net and the latest book

3691
02:38:11,160 --> 02:38:08,561
which is also available on Kindle at

3692
02:38:11,700 --> 02:38:11,170
Barnes & Noble or Amazon thank you very

3693
02:38:13,620 --> 02:38:11,710
much

3694
02:38:15,270 --> 02:38:13,630
the book is on the edge of reality

3695
02:38:17,400 --> 02:38:15,280
there's another book coming out real

3696
02:38:20,671 --> 02:38:17,410
soon from Chris O'Brien called stalking

3697
02:38:22,620 --> 02:38:20,681
the herd the ultimate book on cattle

3698
02:38:25,110 --> 02:38:22,630
mutilations his site is our strange

3699
02:38:27,541 --> 02:38:25,120
planet calm if you're writing this down

3700
02:38:30,120 --> 02:38:27,551
you can find us on Twitter we're known

3701
02:38:31,711 --> 02:38:30,130
as the para cast on Twitter where people

3702
02:38:34,140 --> 02:38:31,721
who invest in this stock are going to

3703
02:38:35,131 --> 02:38:34,150
make a lot of money I guess so we missed

3704
02:38:39,390 --> 02:38:35,141
out sorry about that

3705
02:38:41,850 --> 02:38:39,400
that's our cast on Twitter : Andrews

3706
02:38:44,070 --> 02:38:41,860
thanks for joining us on the power cast

3707
02:38:55,940 --> 02:38:44,080
that's my pleasure Thank You Jenn thanks

3708
02:39:02,371 --> 02:38:59,461
the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

3709
02:39:05,360 --> 02:39:02,381
and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

3710
02:39:09,091 --> 02:39:05,370
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